Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop

From: "A. Gabriel W. Daleson" <ursa@××××××.edu>
To: 'Stuart Stegall' <stuart@×××××××××××××.com>, 'Paul de Vrieze' <pauldv@g.o>, gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:29:07
Message-Id: 200410270729.i9R7T0l5007117@rigel.cs.pdx.edu
In Reply to: RE: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? by Stuart Stegall
1 Oh - and I did check the BIOS, too - I have the most recent Dell
2 BIOS.
3
4 Gabe.
5
6 > -----Original Message-----
7 > From: Stuart Stegall [mailto:stuart@×××××××××××××.com]
8 > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:43 PM
9 > To: 'Paul de Vrieze'; gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
10 > Subject: RE: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing?
11 >
12 > To add further fun to this equation, Dell laptops have notoriously
13 > broken bios' and is probably part of the problem. I use an Inspiron
14 > 1100 and depending on what version of X Windows I wish to
15 > use, I have to
16 > flash a particular bios (and 6.8.1 is currently not working with any
17 > version).
18 >
19 > Thanks,
20 > Stuart
21 >
22 > > -----Original Message-----
23 > > From: Paul de Vrieze [mailto:pauldv@g.o]
24 > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:39 AM
25 > > To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
26 > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing?
27 > >
28 > >
29 > > On Monday 25 October 2004 00:56, A. Gabriel W. Daleson wrote:
30 > > > Hm. I've emerged openoffice already, and also given it
31 > > long lists of
32 > > > other packages to merge, both while X doesn't run. It
33 > > doesn't seem to
34 > > > be related to the machine load in the that sense.
35 > > >
36 > > > Also on this note, I'm dual booting the system - Windows seems to
37 > > > have no trouble with it at all, and every hardware check I've run
38 > > > comes out fine. If it's a hardware problem, it's a real
39 > subtle one.
40 > >
41 > > Windows behaviour is normally not very good in detecting
42 > > broken hardware.
43 > > Windows is rather conservative in it's use of instructions
44 > > (it must run
45 > > on the whole range, while a gentoo system doesn't need to).
46 > > Further there
47 > > are normally enough other sources of crashes to make it hard
48 > > to see that
49 > > a crash is hardware related.
50 > >
51 > > Paul
52 > >
53 > > ps. Do note that the X drivers are not entirely bugfree
54 > > either, and can
55 > > and will lock up your screen, keyboard and mouse. Remote access is
56 > > normally still possible.
57 > >
58 > > pps. There is another good source of seemingly random
59 > > crashes, and that
60 > > has to do with race conditions and other thread related issues.
61 > > Programming safely for multiple threads is difficult.
62 > > Especially if those
63 > > threads are executed on more than one processor.
64 > >
65 > > The causes of such behaviour could be anywhere. Given that
66 > > kde is normally
67 > > stable on multiprocessor systems I would certainly not exclude the
68 > > mainboard or graphics card bioses. (Yes, graphic cards have a
69 > > bios too,
70 > > and it can normally be updated)
71 > >
72 > > --
73 > > Paul de Vrieze
74 > > Gentoo Developer
75 > > Mail: pauldv@g.o
76 > > Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
77 > >
78 >
79 >
80 >
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