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On 20 September 2011 23:03, <gentoo-desktop+help@l.g.o> wrote: |
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> Topics (messages 1986 through 1994): |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1986 - Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1987 - Sebastian Beßler <sebastian@××××××××××××.de> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1988 - Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1989 - Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1990 - Sebastian Beßler <sebastian@××××××××××××.de> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1991 - Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 and hal USE flag |
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> 1992 - Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1993 - Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> |
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> [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. |
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> 1994 - Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> |
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> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. Thing is, |
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> some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as best as I can |
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> tell with my command: |
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> kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 |
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> kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 |
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> kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 |
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> kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 |
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> kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 |
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> I suspect this is a USE flag problem but I can't figure it out for the life |
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> of me. Here is the USE line from emerge --info: |
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> USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac acpi alsa aml apng auto-hinter automount avahi |
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> bash-completion berkdb bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdr chroot cleartype cli |
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> clucene consolekit corefonts cracklib cups curl cxx dbus declarative dri dvd |
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> dvdr emboss encode escreen esd exif fam fdftk ffmpeg firefox flac fortran |
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> gdbm gdu gif gimp gkrellm gnutls gphoto2 gpm gtk hbci hddtemp iconv ipv6 |
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> java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde kipi lcms libnotify libwww |
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> logrotate loop-aes mad mdnsresponder-compat melt mmx mng modules mp3 mp4 |
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> mpeg mplayer mudflap mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ofx |
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> ogg opengl openmp pam pango parport pcre pdf perl phonon plasma png |
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> policykit ppds ppp pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 readline sasl sdl |
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> seamonkey semantic-desktop session sift smp spell sse ssl |
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> startup-notification svg sysfs syslog tcl tcpd threads tiff tk truetype |
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> type1 udev unicode usb vcd vorbis webkit win32codecs wma wmf x264 x86 xcb |
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> xcomposite xinerama xml xorg xscreensaver xv xvid yahoo zeroconf zlib" |
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> I have policykit disabled in make.conf but it is enabled according to |
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> emerge --info. Is that the problem? One of them at least? I have tried to |
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> remove that but they keep getting pulled in. I did get rid of some but |
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> these last few are hair pullers to get rid of. |
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> Thanks for any tips. |
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> Dale |
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> :-) :-) |
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> Am 18.09.2011 21:39, schrieb Dale: |
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> > Thanks for any tips. |
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> The first I would try is to remove the kde and kipi flags. If that helps |
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> then set them via package.use for one package at a time so you find |
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> what pulls kde4. |
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> Greetings |
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> Sebastian |
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> Dale writes: |
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> > I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. |
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> I gave up on this. I was not able to enable HAL :-) |
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> > Thing is, |
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> > some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as best as I |
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> > can tell with my command: |
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> > kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 |
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> Use the -t/--tree argument to emerge, this will tell you what is pulling |
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> them in. |
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> Wonko |
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> On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:39:12 -0500 |
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> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. Thing |
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> > is, some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as |
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> > best as I can tell with my command: |
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> > kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 |
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> > kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 |
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> emerge --depclean -v =kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 |
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> should show what keeps it around. And similarly for remaining packages. |
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> -- |
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> Best regards, |
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> Michał Górny |
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> Am 18.09.2011 23:23, schrieb Alex Schuster: |
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> > Dale writes: |
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> >> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. |
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> > I gave up on this. I was not able to enable HAL :-) |
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> HAL is just on of many good reasons to avoid KDE3 and use something else |
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> like e17 or xfce4. If KDE tools are needed then use the ones from KDE4, |
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> they work flawless with other DE and WM |
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> Greetings |
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> Sebastian Beßler |
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> Sebastian Beßler writes: |
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> > Am 18.09.2011 23:23, schrieb Alex Schuster: |
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> > > Dale writes: |
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> > >> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. |
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> > > I gave up on this. I was not able to enable HAL :-) |
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> > HAL is just on of many good reasons to avoid KDE3 and use something else |
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> > like e17 or xfce4. If KDE tools are needed then use the ones from KDE4, |
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> > they work flawless with other DE and WM |
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> The problem were the kioslaves, without HAL, KDE3 was unable to detect |
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> and automount external media. I wanted to keep the setup, the PC is |
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> rather old and slow, but in the end I switched to KDE4. Using Sabayon |
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> Linux instead of Gentoo, in order to avoid the compiles. |
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> Wonko |
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> Sorry for the looong delay. It's partially because I the system it remote |
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> and I do not always have access to it, and partially because I nearly |
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> forgot about this :) Sorry for that. |
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> Long, long ago Tiago Marques wrote: |
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> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Brent Busby <brent@×××××××××.org> |
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> > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Alex Schuster wrote: |
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> > >> Auto-mounting of external media like CDs does not work, I assume |
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> > >> it's because I have no HAL support for kioslaves: |
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> > >> |
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> > >> leela ~ # USE=hal emerge -pv kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 |
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> > >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: |
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> > >> Calculating dependencies... done! |
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> > >> [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.**5.10-r1 USE="ldap |
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> > >> samba - |
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> > >> debug (-hal) -kdehiddenvisibility -openexr" 0 kB [1] |
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> > >> The (-hal) probably means that this USE flag is disabled by profile. |
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> > >> Is there a way to enable it? Or does one have to mount CDs manually |
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> > >> with KDE 3.5 now? |
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> > >> I tried to put -hal in package.use.mask, and hal in |
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> > >> package.use.force (whatever thsi is). And in package.use of course, |
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> > >> but this does not help. When I look into the ebuild, it seems that |
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> > >> sys- apps/dbus has to be compiled with qt3, but there is no such USE |
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> > >> flag for this package. Maybe that's why hal is masked in the first |
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> > >> place. |
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> > >> So, is there anything I can do about it? |
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> > > Here's what I've had to do... |
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> > > In /etc/portage/package.use.mask: |
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> > > kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves -hal |
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> > > app-cdr/k3b -hal |
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> Here, too. |
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> > > In /etc/portage/package.keywords (because newer masked ebuilds of |
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> > > these two packages solve some build issues): |
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> > > kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 ~amd64 |
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> > > kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 ~amd64 |
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> Done (with ~x86 instead). |
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> > > In /etc/portage/package.unmask: |
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> > > kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 |
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> > > kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 |
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> > > Hope this helps... |
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> No, it did not help :( |
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> > Install this and all will be ok: |
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> > kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 |
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> > sys-apps/dbus-1.2.24 |
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> > sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2 |
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> I tried, getting these ooold versions from the attic. But it still |
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> didn't work out. |
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> But the PC is a rather old one, and so I decided to go away from Gentoo. |
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> Using distcc helped, but only when I and my fast (well not really, but |
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> much faster than that old Sempron) PC were there. I decided to try |
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> Sabayon Linux, which is based on Gentoo, but binary. There is no KDE3, |
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> though, so I had to install KDE4. Which is somewhat slow, maybe Xfce4 or |
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> LXDE will be better. |
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> BTW, I'm not too happy with Sabayon either. The equo package manager is |
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> not as sophisticated as emerge, for example it looks like it is not |
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> possible to call it when another instance is already running. And I do |
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> not yet understand how I can mix equo with portage. But I dod not dig |
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> into this too much, the person using this PC mainly uses KMail, Firefox |
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> and aMSN, and this is working fine. |
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> Anyway, thanks both of you for your assistance. |
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> Wonk |
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> Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:39:12 -0500 |
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>> Dale<rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. Thing |
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>>> is, some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as |
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>>> best as I can tell with my command: |
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>>> kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 |
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>>> kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 |
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>>> kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 |
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>>> kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 |
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>>> kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 |
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>> emerge --depclean -v =kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 |
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>> should show what keeps it around. And similarly for remaining packages. |
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>> Did some of that already, just forgot to mention it. It seems to go into |
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> circles. I installed KDE4 first then KDE3. I'm thinking about getting rid |
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> of them both then installing just KDE3. I really think there is some USE |
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> flag that is doing this. |
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> I did remove the KDE USE flag. It didn't help. I'm going to switch to a |
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> plain Desktop profile. I think I have it on the KDE profile not that I |
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> think about it. |
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> Thanks. |
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> Dale |
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> :-) :-) |
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> Sebastian Beßler wrote: |
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>> Am 18.09.2011 21:39, schrieb Dale: |
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>> Thanks for any tips. |
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>> The first I would try is to remove the kde and kipi flags. If that helps |
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>> then set them via package.use for one package at a time so you find |
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>> what pulls kde4. |
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>> Greetings |
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>> Sebastian |
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> I set it to a plain desktop profile and that seemed to clean things up |
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> nicely. Now we cooking with KDE3. |
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> Thanks much. I knew it was something simple that I was missing. |
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> Dale |
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> :-) :-) |
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