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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-desktop] Re: Openssh really needed in desktop profiles?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:27:17
Message-Id: pan.2007.02.26.09.23.39@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] Openssh really needed in desktop profiles? by Chris Gianelloni
1 Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o> posted
2 1172456062.8807.11.camel@××××××××××××××××.org, excerpted below, on Sun,
3 25 Feb 2007 21:14:22 -0500:
4
5 Doncan inquired...
6
7 >> Why is openssh (as virtual/ssh) part of the desktop profiles?
8 >
9 > Uhh... Because I like it and people expect it to be there. You're more
10 > than capable of removing it from your system.
11 >
12 >> Anyway, I think at least a discussion might be worthwhile, and I
13 >> decided to bring it up here to see what desktop folks thought, before
14 >> bothering the entire dev list with the idea. If it gets shot down
15 >> here, then no need to bring it up there. I keep thinking that
16 >> /someone/ must have asked the question before, but I haven't seen it in
17 >> three years now, so it can't be /too/ much of a FAQ.
18 >
19 > Feel free to bring it up, but the desktop profile is maintained by
20 > Release Engineering since it is used to build release media. I have no
21 > intentions on removing it, since I see it as invaluable, but if a
22 > convincing enough argument were made, I could see *some* concessions on
23 > it. My personal belief is that the profiles shouldn't be removing
24 > requirements on things unless they're incompatible.
25
26 Well, my only argument is the accepted wisdom that any app left installed
27 but unused on a system, particularly if it's a net app, is a security
28 vulnerability only waiting a most inconvenient time to show itself.
29
30 As I said, for some reason package.provided simply isn't working for ssh
31 ATM, for whatever reason. However, it's brought in by virtual/ssh, and
32 by creating an /etc/portage/profiles/virtuals and pointing virutal/ssh at
33 something convenient, in this case baselayout, I cured the problem a
34 different way. =8^)
35
36 Having safely hidden the system-dep-that-isn't-a-dep once again, it's not
37 a big enough deal to find the motivation to be all that convincing if the
38 above argument doesn't do it, so well enough left alone... until the next
39 time it wants to merge for whatever reason. =8^)
40
41 --
42 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
43 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
44 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
45
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