Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop

From: Stuart Stegall <stuart@×××××××××××××.com>
To: 'Paul de Vrieze' <pauldv@g.o>, gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing?
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:42:05
Message-Id: 006801c4baca$d6b039d0$6800a8c0@hellboy1
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? by Paul de Vrieze
1 To add further fun to this equation, Dell laptops have notoriously
2 broken bios' and is probably part of the problem. I use an Inspiron
3 1100 and depending on what version of X Windows I wish to use, I have to
4 flash a particular bios (and 6.8.1 is currently not working with any
5 version).
6
7 Thanks,
8 Stuart
9
10 > -----Original Message-----
11 > From: Paul de Vrieze [mailto:pauldv@g.o]
12 > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:39 AM
13 > To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
14 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing?
15 >
16 >
17 > On Monday 25 October 2004 00:56, A. Gabriel W. Daleson wrote:
18 > > Hm. I've emerged openoffice already, and also given it
19 > long lists of
20 > > other packages to merge, both while X doesn't run. It
21 > doesn't seem to
22 > > be related to the machine load in the that sense.
23 > >
24 > > Also on this note, I'm dual booting the system - Windows seems to
25 > > have no trouble with it at all, and every hardware check I've run
26 > > comes out fine. If it's a hardware problem, it's a real subtle one.
27 >
28 > Windows behaviour is normally not very good in detecting
29 > broken hardware.
30 > Windows is rather conservative in it's use of instructions
31 > (it must run
32 > on the whole range, while a gentoo system doesn't need to).
33 > Further there
34 > are normally enough other sources of crashes to make it hard
35 > to see that
36 > a crash is hardware related.
37 >
38 > Paul
39 >
40 > ps. Do note that the X drivers are not entirely bugfree
41 > either, and can
42 > and will lock up your screen, keyboard and mouse. Remote access is
43 > normally still possible.
44 >
45 > pps. There is another good source of seemingly random
46 > crashes, and that
47 > has to do with race conditions and other thread related issues.
48 > Programming safely for multiple threads is difficult.
49 > Especially if those
50 > threads are executed on more than one processor.
51 >
52 > The causes of such behaviour could be anywhere. Given that
53 > kde is normally
54 > stable on multiprocessor systems I would certainly not exclude the
55 > mainboard or graphics card bioses. (Yes, graphic cards have a
56 > bios too,
57 > and it can normally be updated)
58 >
59 > --
60 > Paul de Vrieze
61 > Gentoo Developer
62 > Mail: pauldv@g.o
63 > Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
64 >
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RE: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? "A. Gabriel W. Daleson" <ursa@××××××.edu>
RE: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? "A. Gabriel W. Daleson" <ursa@××××××.edu>