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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] use flags consolekit and policykit
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:27:54
Message-Id: 4D6783C3.3070507@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] use flags consolekit and policykit by Theo Chatzimichos
1 Theo Chatzimichos wrote:
2 > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Andreas K. Huettel
3 > <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> Dear all,
6 >>
7 >> at the last kde meeting we've been discussing the usefulness of the use flags
8 >> consolekit and policykit. I'm quoting from the summary:
9 >>
10 >>
11 >>> scarabeus and dilfridge are in favour of dropping them, since it
12 >>> caused a lot of trouble debugging various user reports. reavertm
13 >>> prefers adding it to IUSE defaults. No consensus was succeeded,
14 >>> the topic will be continued in the gentoo-desktop mailing list.
15 >>>
16 >> As an example, according to
17 >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244444
18 >> policykit is _not_ a hard dependency of kde, but _required_ whenever you want
19 >> to "run as" or configure something in systemsettings as root.
20 >>
21 >> The three options available are
22 >> 1) removing the useflags, effectively "forcing them on". Easiest for us
23 >> maintainers,
24 >> 2) forcing them on with use.force in the profile, and trust that not so many
25 >> users figure out how to get around this :)
26 >> 3) making them "on by default"
27 >>
28 >> As a special gem, after switching one of the flags it may be necessary to
29 >> recompile larger parts of kde and / or restart kdm.
30 >>
31 >> Opinions?
32 >>
33 > The depedencies are indeed really small, but the reason that some of
34 > us objected is that we want to follow upstream's decisions on what is
35 > optional and what is not. A similar issue that emerged recently is
36 > udisks and friends, which is also optional according to upstream and
37 > not needed for people that want KDElibs for only a few apps and not
38 > for the full DE. We'd like to have some user feedback on this before
39 > our final decision.
40 >
41 >
42
43 Well, this user likes option 3. It is on and ready to go but we could
44 disable it if we didn't need/want it. Maybe this is a good addition to
45 the recently formed kde profile?
46
47 There's one vote.
48
49 Dale
50
51 :-) :-)