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On 12/07/2016 04:39 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: |
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> On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 04:01:53PM -0500, james wrote: |
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>> Can you cross post to gentoo-dev? I'm not subscribed to that list. |
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>> Should not a wider community, particularly devs be part of the discussion? |
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> Please DO subscribe. |
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Nope. I strongly believe that if your wider dev community had a deeper |
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understanding of the responsibility chain, gentoo would not be in such a |
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mess. These juvenile beliefs and behaviors your dev teams routinely |
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display, can be used against the organization, if IRS agents so desire. |
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It'd be a trivial occurrence for the IRS to reclassify gentoo to |
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something other than a charity. Any a. h. can profit by being a snitch |
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to the IRS. If you doubt this, find an old/mean/retired IRS agent to |
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audit gentoo. A CPA will lie to you, legally. Cause when you make |
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mistakes and get audited (can be easily triggered by a pal of the CPA |
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you go to), that just means more 'billable hours' for the CPA. They'll |
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bleed gentoo dry and participate with the IRS in going after companies |
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that have used gentoo for their own gain. When you give to a charity, |
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there is suppose to be a 'hands off' what the charity does with the |
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gift, otherwise it's a corporate tax-dodge in the eyes of the IRS. |
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GSoC is a poster child for this problem. |
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How's that tech relationship with the tech industry and the trump team |
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looking these days? Go read about about what Obama did to the 501(c) |
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charities circa the 2012 election cycle. Pense was the ring leader in |
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working behind close doors to defund the IRS to calm that one sided |
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assault on 501(c) organization down. Read the tea leaves, brah. |
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The results of what you have discovered, desperately needs to be shared |
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with your devs, so they can begin to develop wisdom and culture their |
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attitudes into a recognized charity organization, which is what Gentoo |
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purports to be. My prayers are with you, brother. Furthermore, the real |
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risk is some starving lawyer goes after one of any of the companies that |
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have previously been generous to gentoo first attacking gentoo. |
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It's a dominoes legal strategy and works all the time in the court |
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systems. Ignorance of the law and shoddy records puts gentoo squarely in |
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the "guilty but pleading for judicial mercy" category. The problem is |
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these sorts of lawyers do not need Trump or Pense to do their bidding. |
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They earn lots of money churning up 501(c) and many others. |
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For example some layers have made millions and millions of dollars off |
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of suing all sorts of organizations for failure to comply with laws |
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related to the disability act. Things like designated parking spots and |
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wheelchair ramps. 501(c) and governmental agencies have all been sued as |
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such too. So if a potential dev is OCD, or otherwise has psychological |
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disabilities, what is the gentoo strategy to be charitable to them? |
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Hell, our devs run off folks that are well qualified, due to the clique |
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and the standard dev assimilated trite behaviors. If once they see the |
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power, of the dark side, and first hand witness the devastation the IRS |
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can bring, they'll all understand and become wise; but at a tremendous |
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price. You catching the drift here? I sure hope so. |
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> The long response I just sent is significantly off-topic for the -dev |
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> list. It may be almost on-topic for the -project list, but certainly not |
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> -dev. |
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I could not disagree more, but that's your choice. |
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> The council agenda this month includes getting more off-topic stuff out |
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> of -project, so keeping the lists to their intended function should be |
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> done. |
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You devs are at the heart of the problem; you need to remove your |
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blinders and learn from what has happened. Repent and turn Gentoo into |
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the wonderful charity it should be. Remove the collective a. h. and |
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their behaviors, asap. Set standard and put violators on probation |
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just like is routine for new devs. Authority alwayhs comes with a price. |
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Think of it this way, Gentoo is under the microscope and these |
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revelations should have a profound effect on the leadership, asap. |
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Failure to be wise in leadership, is not going to work as a defense in a |
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court of law. Let's hope (and pray) it does not come down to that. |
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>> At least a quick link for folk, who are interested can read what is |
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>> discussed via the list? I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in |
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>> our goals and management infrastructures. |
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> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/ca4fd8c98b9649bb060d48b466927c82 |
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A fine work; thanks for your commitments. I've been here 14 years. This |
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is not a problem of anyone's making. It a problem of a lack of |
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leadership which is due to a lack of wisdom. Now you and the Council and |
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the Foundation are in the positions of leadership; so LEAD. |
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A word of advise: Document all of the discrepancies you can, since you |
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are now involved as a fiduciary with gentoo. Do not hide any of them. |
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Publish them and beg all for help. gnucash-user is full of help. FREE |
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help. USE it! |
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California has to have at least one retired IRS agent, if not a thousand |
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or more. Find one; learn and seek guidance. |
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Caveat Emptor! |
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> For a slightly older piece, also see the talk I gave about the |
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> Foundation, at this year's Gentoo miniconference: |
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> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLICDJo0onMRJFwAD3V7KGZWgnkxQaELeh |
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James |