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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright issues (Was: udev-ng?)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:03:58
Message-Id: CAGfcS_nkvewSyhNovTLntsBQFx2dxVUe8vHDaUfZAJnmk6CzAw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright issues (Was: udev-ng?) by Greg KH
1 On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > Talk to a lawyer if you disagree with this. The area of copyright law,
4 > and software, is very well defined (with one exception of the "major
5 > change to add your copyright, and even then, there's an agreed apon
6 > standard to follow). Because of that, I disagree that you think this is
7 > something that is unknown at all.
8
9 I realize that it is illegal to remove a copyright line from a work
10 without permission, just as it is illegal to copy a work in the first
11 place without permission. The question is whether the GPL gives such
12 permission, whether it is possible to give such permission, or at
13 least whether you can give somebody this permission and then sue them
14 for following through.
15
16 That's my main concern here. Can somebody say, "sure, go ahead and
17 remove my name from the copyright line" and then sue you for doing it?
18
19 >
20 > But I'm not going to be able to change your mind :) Please get the
21 > Foundation to write up the rules apon which Gentoo developers need to
22 > handle the copyright mark, so that there's no disagreement as to what to
23 > do, in any type of situation.
24
25 I'm not curious enough that I'd be willing to spend money on this. If
26 somebody wants to change my mind they're welcome to provide me with a
27 reference for a relevant case. I'm sure there are endless cases of
28 bad things happening to people removing copyright lines, just as there
29 are endless cases of people being sued for copying files. I'm
30 concerned with cases where something bad has happened to somebody who
31 removed a copyright line after being given permission to do so, and
32 cases dealing with copyleft licenses and whether they grant this
33 permission.
34
35 I suspect the wisest course of action for the Foundation will be to
36 take the conservative approach. However, I do not believe that this
37 is because this is legally required. It is simply a matter of not
38 being wise to spend all that donated money fighting to prove that this
39 is the case. After all, even if I'm completely right, that doesn't
40 mean that somebody can't sue me. Winning a legal case in the US is a
41 very expensive proposition. I'm sure that would be the advice of any
42 lawyer we retained. All that said, a formal policy would be a good
43 idea.
44
45 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright issues (Was: udev-ng?) Greg KH <gregkh@g.o>