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From: Jan Stary <hans@×××××.cz>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:36:27
Message-Id: 20170110123615.GA13610@www.stare.cz
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages by "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov"
1 On Jan 10 19:19:03, gentoo@×××.name wrote:
2 > В письме от вторник, 10 января 2017 г. 13:08:14 +07 пользователь Jan Stary
3 > написал:
4 > > On Jan 10 19:04:47, gentoo@×××.name wrote:
5 > > > > There is an option to support; the packages need to be reinstalled
6 > > > > or there are untracked files; the manpage formatter needs to call
7 > > > > external unpackers. All this to save 40M. I honestly don't think
8 > > > > it's worth it.
9 > > >
10 > > > Why do you care about calling external unpacker,
11 > > > but do not care about saving 40MB?
12 > >
13 > > Because not having to call an external unpacker
14 > > allows for the manpage formatter to be simple;
15 > > whereas saving 40M of space is of no concern.
16 >
17 > You arguing that 40MB is nothing on modern systems (which, by the way is not
18 > exactly true, talking about embedded ones).
19
20 Can you gove an example of an embedded system with manpages?
21
22 > So, I guess, it means, that you have modern powerfull hardware, which is
23 > pretty fine with some overheads.
24
25 If having an extra 40MB is "modern, powerfull hardware", then yes.
26
27 > Then why do you need "simple" manpage formatter?
28
29 Why do I want software to be simple?
30
31 > And actually, why calling external unpacker is so complicated? Almost any
32 > programming language I know, has functions identical to C's system()...
33
34 It's not that complicated; it's unneeded, it's another dependency, etc.
35
36 > Do you fully understand, that you asking to change "defaults", that will
37 > affect tons of users (which are happy with current "defaults") because yours
38 > only own local problems (not having root access on the system)?
39
40 This has nothing to do with not having root - that only makes it
41 unable for me to use the _workarounds_.
42
43 What would be the effect of having uncompressed manpages as the default?
44 (Besides having them renderred by any manpage formatter,
45 and wasting 40MB of space, obviously)?
46
47 Jan

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Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages Sven Eden <sven.eden@×××.de>