Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 15:35 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> > It seems like genstef and jokey have completely
> > ignored support from arch teams for this overlay.  What are you
> > proposing with respect to arch keywords and package.mask?
> users are supported to do everything themselves in the sunrise overlay. We
> are not trying to add any additional workload to your current one. We are
> in fact trying to make life easier for everyone.

Except that you aren't accomplishing this.  I have shown lots of points
where this will increase workload on an already overworked group of
volunteers, yet the proponents of this project are either overlooking
them, avoiding them, or simply ignoring them.

> > Do you
> > actually expect us to do anything but close assigned bugs for sunrice
> > ebuilds as WONTFIX?
> It is more like, explain the users how to fix it themselves, because they
> can with the sunrise overlay.

...or just mark it as WONTFIX because we won't fix it.  It isn't our job
to go around policing things that are not in the portage tree.  If it
was good enough or popular enough to be of concern to us, it would be
*IN THE TREE* where it belongs.  Why is this so hard to understand?

> > Where else would these bugs go except for arch
> > teams, seeing as we clearly can't assign them to end users who
> > originally submitted the maintainer-wanted ebuilds?
> These are not expected to be filed as bugs, they should be fixed by the
> users in question.

So now we will have random users also doing work of the architecture
team?

How about you guys start building the releases, too?  I'm sure you'll
have a wonderful time with the reiser4/broken-sources ricer crowd out
there.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux