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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:28:11
Message-Id: 5213B53F.2060701@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies by William Hubbs
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4 On 20/08/13 02:19 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
5 > All,
6 >
7 > I'm not really sure what the answer to this problem is, so I want
8 > to know what the group thinks about how we can handle it.
9 >
10 > During the last release of OpenRC, I learned that people *do* run
11 > production servers on ~arch. I asked about it and was told that
12 > the reason for this is bitrot in the stable tree.
13 >
14 > My question is, how can we improve our stabilization
15 > procedures/policies so we can convince people not to run production
16 > servers on ~arch and keep the stable tree more up to date?
17 >
18 > Thanks,
19 >
20 > William
21 >
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23 I see a few issues with ~arch -> table migrations:
24
25 #1 - things just sit in ~arch. The auto-stablereq script should help
26 with this one I think; we should give it some time to see if it works out.
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28 #2 - the inter-related'ness of packages -- sending one package from
29 ~arch to stable is often not sufficient, rather that package and a
30 whole set of (r)deps all need to go to stable at the same time, and
31 those packages are not necessarily managed by the same herd or team.
32 Because of this I can see why the solution to #1 ends up getting
33 blocked. I don't have a solution for this one; we need to figure out
34 better ways of dev's working together to push packages to stable more
35 often; maybe more tracker bugs? dunno...
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37 Of course, developer communication only improves things when there
38 aren't any bugs that block one package and therefore the entire set of
39 (r)deps. It could be that this is the real root cause of ~arch holdbacks.
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o>