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From: Tobias Scherbaum <dertobi123@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:19:37
Message-Id: 1270289959.18734.19.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix? by Patrick Lauer
1 Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Patrick Lauer:
2 > > We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
3 > > Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
4 > > users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
5 >
6 > So what are _you_ doing to make it better?
7
8 I started to maintain those "unmaintained" packages which are important
9 to me myself and ended up in the net-mail/netmon herds for example.
10 Postfix, Cyrus-Imap, Bind, Nagios and several others are packages i put
11 my hands on - just because noone else did and those were and still are
12 essential to me.
13
14 > > - hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
15 > > overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the
16 > > hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist.
17 > > Yeah, we do have people working on hardened stuff, but if people just
18 > > take what's happening in the portage tree they might think that the
19 > > hardened stuff they're relying on for their business isn't supported any
20 > > longer.
21 > With Zorry we just got a new recruit for working on hardened things,
22 > especially toolchain. It's not as dead as you make it sound ...
23
24 Good to see there's something happening in hardened - but still, the
25 user outside of Gentoo still only is seeing: "Oh, no hardened-sources
26 update for nearly a year."
27
28 > > - Understaffed herds: For example net-mail, netmon and others - were
29 > > missing lots of developers and their support in lots of areas. Sadly
30 > > those areas are mostly those ones, one might need packages for their
31 > > business servers from.
32 > And still, when someone tries to fix things in such an understaffed herd
33 > people go all territorial and are like "omg u touched my package".
34 > Right now I'm quite confused what our project strategy seems to be, as
35 > far as I can tell there's one group aiming for an aesthetical optimum
36 > and the other group just wants to get things fixed. And they are not
37 > cooperating well ...
38
39 I for one can't say I had any territorial problems when touching
40 packages belonging to other devs or herds - it's just a problem if you
41 screw up.
42
43 - Tobias
44
45 --
46 Praxisbuch Nagios
47 http://www.oreilly.de/catalog/pbnagiosger/
48
49 https://www.xing.com/profile/Tobias_Scherbaum

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix? Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix? Magnus Granberg <zorry@g.o>