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Hey guys, |
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Just read through this entire thread, and one concern still rings loud |
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and clear -- what is the purpose of this fork? |
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The various responses I've read so far are something like: |
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- Because Linus yelled a lot when udev/Kay broke firmware loading. |
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Except both Linus and the udev people fixed the problem. Linus added |
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direct filesystem loading in the kernel [1], and I'm told the udev |
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folks also fixed their hang and async situation. |
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- Because udev requires systemd. |
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Except the patches to build udev without systemd are not very large. |
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- Because of kmod. |
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Still required for things, even if its indirectly removed. |
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- Because we want to have separate /usr working again. |
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Will udev alone actually fix the separate /usr functionality? What's |
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required here? |
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Don't bother responding to the above bullet points, even if they're |
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garbage. Instead, read on to what I'm really after. |
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In general, what I'm looking for is some kind of well-written, |
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well-thought out mission statement, that clearly says "okay here are |
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the issues, here's generally how we're going to solve them, and here's |
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why you should feel good about this being a Gentoo project." |
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At the moment, I haven't found anything like this, and the fact that |
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it's an official Gentoo project consuming the time and hearts of |
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intelligent developers makes me concerned, since I'm in the dark as to |
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its purpose and motivation. |
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All I'm asking is some kind of coherent mission statement. If the |
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aggregated responses to the bullet points above are inaccurate, don't |
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bother responding to those inaccuracies on a point by point basis or |
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bikeshed on them, or whatever happens on mailing lists. Just, please, |
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tell everybody what exactly you want to do, why you want to do it, and |
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what this is all about. |
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Thanks a lot, |
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Jason |
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[1] http://git.zx2c4.com/linux/commit/drivers/base/firmware_class.c?id=abb139e75c2cdbb955e840d6331cb5863e409d0e |
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Jason A. Donenfeld |
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Gentoo Linux Security |
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zx2c4@g.o |
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www.zx2c4.com |
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