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On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45:18PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote |
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> No one is arguing against that. All this thread is about is making |
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> systemd a first-class citizen, like OpenRC/Sysvinit, so it will be as |
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> smooth as possible for someone who wants to switch between the two. |
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It seems that some of the proposals are crossing the line to make |
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systemd first-class and openrc second-class. *THAT* is what's causing |
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the complaints. The best analogy I can think of is the more extreme |
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type of "affirmative action" that effectively amounts to racial |
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discrimination against white people. The pro-systemd group here is |
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advocating double-standards... |
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1) http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/272180?do=post_view_threaded |
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> Having a package to install every systemd unit in existence just |
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> clutters the end user's system and makes it harder to tell which |
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> units are actually valid. |
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Yet openrc users are supposed to accept having their systems cluttered |
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with systemd units. |
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2) I suggested keying on a "systemd" USE flag, to inform portage whether |
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or not to install systemd units. I was told that |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198901 forbade using it that |
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way. And therefore systemd config files would be installed regardless |
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of flags. Therefore udev/eudev don't have "systemd" flags. But both |
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have "openrc" flags, and will not run OK on an openrc machine without |
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the "openrc" flag. |
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Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> |
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I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications |
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