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From: Richard Yao <ryao@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:40:38
Message-Id: 4FE3BE79.6020305@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5 by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On 06/21/2012 04:29 AM, Duncan wrote:
2 > Richard Yao posted on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:50:33 -0400 as excerpted:
3 >
4 >> On 06/20/2012 04:35 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
5 >>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:30 -0400 Richard Yao <ryao@g.o> wrote:
6 >
7 >>>> POSIX Shell compliance
8 >>>
9 >>> So far as I know, every PM relies heavily upon bash anyway (and can't
10 >>> easily be made not to), so even if developers would accept having to
11 >>> rewrite all their eclasses, it still wouldn't remove the dep.
12 >>>
13 >> Lets address POSIX compliance in the ebuilds first. Then we can deal
14 >> with the package managers.
15 >
16 > Additionally, this is extremely unlikely because a number of developers
17 > insist on bash, to the extent that it would likely split gentoo in half
18 > if this were to be forced. It wouldn't pass council. It's unlikely to
19 > even /get/ to council.
20 >
21 > Openrc could move to POSIX shell because its primary dev at the time
22 > wanted it that way and it's only a single package. However, even then,
23 > doing it was controversial enough that said developer ended up leaving
24 > gentoo in-part over that, tho he did continue to develop openrc as a
25 > gentoo hosted project for quite some years. Now you're talking trying to
26 > do it for /every/ (well, almost every) package, thus touching every
27 > single gentoo dev. It's just not going to happen in even the medium term
28 > (say for argument APIs 5-7ish), let alone be something practical enough
29 > to implement, soon enough (even if everyone agreed on the general idea,
30 > they don't), to be anything like conceivable for EAPI5.
31 >
32 > So just let that one be. It's simply not worth tilting at that windmill.
33
34 Would you (or someone else) elaborate on the specific features of bash
35 that people find attractive?

Replies

Subject Author
[gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5 "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5 Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o>