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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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> It may be that this is already sorted on the gnome side, or that all this |
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> talk of gnome-os is simply hot-air, but like I said, I'm a kde user, so I |
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> wouldn't know, tho I'm concerned about its implications for the rest of |
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> us (including kde, since it might well end up with similar |
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> requirements). And I've not yet seen it mentioned in the gentoo |
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> implications context, so I'm compelled to ask. |
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I too am a bit concerned with some of the trends here. I recently installed |
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Ubuntu to see how it handles suspend-to-disk and compare Gentoo's support |
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(believe it or not it worked more reliably on my Gentoo install!). However, |
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what struck me is messages like my VM didn't meet the requirements for unity |
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so it was falling back to classic gnome, and that got me thinking. |
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I'm seeing a bit of a trend in the linux world towards major distros and |
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desktop environments building these huge highly integrated platforms. |
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Instead of having core modules that everybody shares and clear interfaces, |
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everybody wants to build their own SysVInit replacement, their own audio |
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system, their own window managers, their own web browsers, and so on. With |
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Wayland on the horizon we're talking about having multiple X11 |
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implementations/replacements possibly. |
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Granted, KDE/Gnome have been doing this sort of thing for a while with |
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arts/etc. However, if arts wasn't working right it didn't really keep you |
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from getting stuff done (unless you are mixing audio for a living). |
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I'm a bit concerned that the future of linux on the desktop is going to be |
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one where your choices are things like Android, ChromeOS, Ubuntu, Gnome OS, |
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or a "KDE OS." Each one would have its own package managers, repositories, |
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distros, APIs, etc. Clearly there is some benefit from the vertical |
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integration (Android and ChromeOS have a very high level of polish, and |
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Ubuntu is approaching this often by just writing their own stuff). Instead |
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of working to influence other projects (which can be frustrating), big |
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distros are looking to just eliminate dependencies outside of themselves. |
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This will be a big challenge for a smaller distro like Gentoo. Obviously we |
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can't just go write our own Wayland replacement, even if we did essentially |
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make our own "systemd" of sorts. |
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Rich |
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