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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 02:53:11
Message-Id: 20130530025258.GA23637@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init by Tom Wijsman
1 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote
2
3 > "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote:
4 >
5 > > In order for a different init system to come up, some file(s)
6 > > somewhere *MUST* be different, no ifs/ands/ors/buts.
7 >
8 > How true is this in general? It is usually only a change of the init
9 > parameter.
10
11 Where is the init parameter changed? Even if it's only the "append"
12 line in /etc/lilo.conf, my above statement still holds true. If you've
13 got two identical machines with byte-identical hard drives, they can not
14 boot two different OS's or init systems.
15
16 > > The problem with an eselect approach is that it's like asking a brain
17 > > surgeon to operate on himself.
18 >
19 > eselect and wrappers don't operate on themselves, please elaborate.
20
21 The operating system is changing itself.
22
23 > > [SNIP to shorten mail]
24 >
25 > Users can already do this, this isn't a solution.
26
27 > > [SNIP to shorten mail]
28 >
29 > Again: Users can already do this, this isn't a solution. See above...
30
31 If users can already do it themselves, then why this entire thread?
32 Why do we need eselect/whatever?
33
34 --
35 Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
36 I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>