Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Richard Yao <ryao@×××××××××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:08:56
Message-Id: 4F610837.6060305@cs.stonybrook.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! by Zac Medico
On 03/14/12 16:55, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 01:03 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> I do not have a separate /usr partition, however I agree with Joshua >> Kinard's stance regarding the /usr move. The point of having a separate >> /usr was to enable UNIX to exceed the space constraints that a 1.5MB >> hard disk placed on rootfs. As far as I know, we do not support a 1.5MB >> rootfs so it would make sense to deprecate the practice of having things >> that belong in / in /usr directory, as opposed to making /usr into a new /. >> >> Deprecation of this practice would mean that people could type >> /bin/command instead of /usr/bin/command in situations where absolute >> paths are necessary. We could symlink things in /usr to rootfs for >> compatibility with legacy software. In a more extreme case, we could >> symlink /usr to /, which would make plenty of sense given that we do not >> need a separate /usr at all. > > I'm not seeing any compelling benefits here that would justify a lack of > conformity with other *nix distros. It seems almost as though it's an > attempt to be different for the sake of being different, perhaps a > symptom of something like NIH syndrome.
How did RedHat justify that lack of conformity that resulted from moving everything into /usr in the first place? The original UNIX did not have anything in /usr. The /usr split was caused by Bell Labs having to grow UNIX past the constraints of a 1.5MB hard drive. Since we are no longer limited by such space constraints, I fail to see why we should not deprecate /usr. In the meantime, it should be possible to create a global usr USE flag that enables/disables gen_usr_ldscript. It would then be possible to delete all of the usr ldscripts, dump /usr into / and symlink /usr to /. The dynamic linker would go to / before /usr and it would be trivial to modify $PATH to ignore /usr entirely. Legacy software that requires /usr/{bin,sbin} would still work while those that want a separate /usr mount could symlink /usr/{bin,include,libexec,sbin} into their rootfs counterparts.

Attachments

File name MIME type
signature.asc application/pgp-signature

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>