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From: Fabio Erculiani <lxnay@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 09:42:31
Message-Id: CAN3AtvoKmREVJMBnvrqSZ_Mwjrog4UpN1SZbgYGtPkHe4LOz4g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users by William Hubbs
1 Good news.
2 I've been able to make logind work with OpenRC and GNOME 3.6 (which
3 means that GNOME 3.8 can work as well).
4 Disclaimer: I use systemd as device manager. I don't know if my logind
5 (there is a bug about it) works with udev without further hacking.
6 See: https://plus.google.com/u/0/107663298003289209275/posts/TxjqZkniR9f
7
8 Now, the problem is that, as I wrote before, we're more and more
9 drifting away from what upstream is supporting.
10 Today the source of all our troubles is just GNOME, I am afraid that
11 tomorrow it will expand beyond it. There are technical advantages for
12 both distro makers and desktop environment makers in using systemd
13 (besides the disadvantages). For instance, having a centralized tool
14 for collecting system and user logs is certainly something that would
15 make our job easier, having working (or mostly working) "init scripts"
16 provided directly by upstream projects would reduce our maintenance
17 burden in the long run.
18 Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anybody in using either init
19 systems, I am just suggesting that you should try both and decide
20 yourself. Which translated, is the same goal as making systemd more
21 accessible to you.
22
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24 Fabio Erculiani