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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:15:36
Message-Id: ed9fe85f-5131-4643-81b1-615418e49bf7@email.android.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement by Stelian Ionescu
1 Stelian Ionescu <sionescu@××××.org> wrote:
2
3 >On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 12:48 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
4 >> On Friday, December 21, 2012 12:42:23 PM Michał Górny wrote:
5 >> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:31:28 +0100
6 >> >
7 >> > "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
8 >> > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 12:02:34 PM Michał Górny wrote:
9 >> > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:24:45 +0100
10 >> > > >
11 >> > > > "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
12 >> > > > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 09:57:25 AM Michał Górny wrote:
13 >> > > > > > Just let me know when you have to maintain a lot of such
14 >systemd
15 >> > > > > > and upgrade, say, glibc. Then maybe you'll understand.
16 >> > > > >
17 >> > > > > A shared /usr means I need to update ALL the systems at once.
18 >> > > > > When /usr is not shared, I can update groups at a time.
19 >> > > >
20 >> > > > Yes, and this is what disqualifies it for the general case. If
21 >you
22 >> > > > can't update one at some point, you can't update the others or
23 >it is
24 >> > > > going to likely get broken in a random manner.
25 >> > >
26 >> > > Yes, but do you want to find out when the entire production
27 >environment is
28 >> > > down? Or would you rather do the upgrades in steps and only risk
29 >having to
30 >> > > rebuild a few nodes and have a lower performance during that
31 >time?
32 >> > > There is a big difference between 50% performance and 0%.
33 >> >
34 >> > Didn't you just state that you *have* to update all at the same
35 >time?
36 >>
37 >> Please re-read what I wrote.
38 >> I said, with a *shared* /usr, then yes, I do need to update the
39 >entire
40 >> environment at the same time.
41 >
42 >That's not true.
43 >
44 >--
45 >Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix
46 >Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
47 >http://common-lisp.net/project/iolib
48
49 How would you update a subset of servers when they all share the same /usr?
50
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52 Joost
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