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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: 1i5t5.duncan@×××.net
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we have process names and stdout / stderr indication to more efficiently parse build logs? (was: Re: rfc: escape sequences in logs)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 09:10:57
Message-Id: 20130905111038.00b52c7f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we have process names and stdout / stderr indication to more efficiently parse build logs? (was: Re: rfc: escape sequences in logs) by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:54:46 +0000 (UTC)
2 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
3
4 > Kent Fredric posted on Wed, 04 Sep 2013 23:38:40 +1200 as excerpted:
5 >
6 > > I see. I have a few gvim instances also reading/writing to that
7 > > terminal I didn't know about, interesting.
8 >
9 > Which brings up the privacy point.
10
11 Not really, because those instances wouldn't appear in logs.
12
13 > Anything getting this fancy and convoluted in terms of
14 > implementation is going to have to be very careful to narrow the
15 > scope of what it's looking at, lest it become the NSA in terms of
16 > dragnet.
17
18 It would be narrowed down to just the processes of the log; so, I don't
19 think anything special needs to be done.
20
21 > Even then, how many people would REALLY trust it, knowing
22 > the lengths to which it has to go to narrow down and focus in on JUST
23 > the info it needs? I don't think I'd trust it, for the same reason I
24 > don't trust the NSA doing similar things under "just trust us"
25 > pretenses. Would YOU? (Granted, our implementation would presumably
26 > be open, something the NSA most certainly is NOT, but still...)
27
28 You already put trust in us; a tiny feature difference that doesn't
29 really reveal anything (compared to eg. `emerge --info --verbose`),
30 isn't going to make a difference in that.
31
32 --
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34
35 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
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