Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

[Samuli Suominen]

On 02/08/2010 02:12 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 02/08/2010 01:36 PM, AllenJB wrote:
>> On 08/02/10 11:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> Hello.  Please don't be too harsh if I got this wrong or if this looks
>>> like whining :P
>>>
>>> A lot of ebuilds seem to ignore the "X" USE flag and instead only have
>>> "gtk", "qt" and the like.  This should be declared absolutely wrong,
>>> IMHO.  When a program provides a command-line tool and a GUI tool, and
>>> the GUI tool uses only one toolkit, then the USE flag should be "X".
>>> [...]
>>>
>> I don't see that either system makes particularly more sense than the
>> other.
>>
>> The only situation that comes immediately to mind is: Under the current
>> system, if packages add or remove support for multiple toolkits, the
>> changes are trivial, but under your system it would invoke shuffling use
>> flags around (which could easily affect dependencies in other packages).
>> It would also not be immediately clear which toolkits support has been
>> added/removed under the proposed system (since a package would go from,
>> for example, having use flags "gtk kde" to just "X").
>
> If it would be problematic for a package to switch to "X" then of course
> it might be better to leave it as-is.  But most of the time, the
> programs in question only state "gtk" or "fltk" in them, even though Gtk
> is not optional at all.  A perfect example here is media-video/xvattr.
> If you don't set the "gtk" USE flag, then you don't get the graphical
> tool at all, only the command line tool.

Very bad example.

That's what people want: xvattr is used on headless VDR multimedia
HTPC's, and VDR doesn't need toolkits like GTK+ installed.