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On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:59 AM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> I'm glad someone else on this list finally realizes that udev did not break |
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> separate /usr on its own. I've been trying to explain this to people |
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> here for ages. |
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> It isn't just programs that use libraries in /usr/lib that are broken. |
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> Any program in early boot that tries to access data files in /usr/share |
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> before /usr is mounted is broken, so for example, locales do not |
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> work before /usr is mounted. |
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Yup - the increasing dbusification and increased use of shared libs |
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has tended to drive this as well. More and more system packages are |
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supporting more and more exotic and automagic configurations, and that |
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is leading to a situation where the boot-time dependencies are |
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growing. The more complex your situation gets, the more likely you |
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need /usr early. |
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I bit the bullet with initramfs, and while I struggled with the dracut |
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documentation at the time it has worked out well. I can just set up |
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an additional early-boot fstab and whatever is in it gets mounted. |
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I'll likely migrate root to lvm was well now that the barrier for that |
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is gone. Plus, when I get new hardware I can just compile a boatload |
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of modules without getting memory bloat or trying to guess which |
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driver is the one needed to boot my new whatever. It does cost some |
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compile time though. |
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But, if your needs are simple and you want to avoid the initramfs, |
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more power to you. Gentoo is about choice. It is OK to try something |
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and decide it isn't right, and that goes both ways. I'd strongly |
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encourage everybody following this thread to understand your options, |
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try out your options (VMs or whatever), and make the decision because |
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you know what is best for you. |
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Rich |
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