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From: Jon Portnoy <avenj@g.o>
To: Matthew Kennedy <mkennedy@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:45:55
Message-Id: 20031121174552.GB24867@cerberus.oppresses.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure by Matthew Kennedy
1 On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:16:19AM -0600, Matthew Kennedy wrote:
2 > Jason Stubbs <jasonbstubbs@×××××××××××.com> writes:
3 >
4 > [...]
5 >
6 > > massive amount of licenses, I suggest having reasonable defaults for
7 > > ACCEPT_LICENSES is make.defaults.
8 > >
9 > > The reason for this is that the free vs non-free questioning comes up on -user
10 > > every month or two. Each time, the answer is invariably "you wont find what
11 > > you're looking for here". I would prefer to be able to say, "sure, Gentoo can
12 > > do that". And it seems if the above were implemented it would be as easy as
13 > > ACCEPT_LICENSES="-* GPL-1 GPL-2 LGPL-2 LGPL-2.1". (I'm not so familiar with
14 > > which licenses but I'm sure someone that cares would be).
15 > >
16 > > As a added benefit, using something similar to the above would ensure that a
17 > > stage3 tarball would never be 'polluted'. I'm sure there would be other
18 > > benefits, too.
19 >
20 > [...]
21 >
22 > Personally, I am only interested in supporting and using free
23 > software, so...
24 >
25 > The best solution is just to remove support for anything non-free in
26 > portage and to also remove any non-free software from our mirrors.
27 > Let some other external project step up to the plate and provide a
28 > non-free overlay if they wish. This would put us in a position to be
29 > the only GNU/Linux distribution out there which is truly Free
30 > according to GNU standards (AFAIK). Wouldn't that be a great selling
31 > point?
32 >
33
34 No, actually, it would be the reason a lot of users return to a
35 different distribution.
36
37 While you and I are free software advocates, you have to keep in mind
38 what the greater user community wants and needs. I am very active in the
39 user community and I can assure you that people definitely do not want
40 to have to take extra steps to get nonfree software because a small
41 group of people decided it should be that way. They want to be able to
42 make decisions for themselves and think distributions should be there to
43 facilitate whatever they choose to do, and I agree with them.
44
45 I also think that if we implement ACCEPT_LICENSES, it should most
46 definitely accept all licenses (except e.g. the ID licenses) by
47 default, or at least a grouping like 'free nonfree'
48
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