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El jue, 20-12-2012 a las 21:30 -0800, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." escribió: |
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> On 12/20/12 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: |
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> > I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers |
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> > that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity |
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> > packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still |
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> > contributing to the distro in many ways other than direct CVS commits |
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> > (e.g. overlays, user support, providing hardware to other devs, etc). |
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> Dough, thank you for rising the issue. |
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> I'm receiving the undertakers@ e-mail, so I have a pretty good view of |
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> what's happening. |
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> I have several suggestions how we can improve things: |
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> 1. 3 months is too short period anyway. |
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> 2. Think through what the goals are. We do not want to retire as many |
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> people as possible. We do not want to frustrate people who do contribute |
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> to Gentoo. We do not want to discourage people who consider becoming new |
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> developers. At least I don't. |
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> 3. I think what's important is to keep packages maintained. I consider |
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> maintainership to be a duty, not a privilege. If someone is listed in |
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> metadata.xml, but is not really maintaining the package, that creates a |
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> formal illusion that the package is maintained, and may prevent other |
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> people from stepping up and taking maintenance of that package. |
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> 4. I suggest that we focus on the above: keeping packages maintained. |
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> Taking packages out of hands of inactive/overworked maintainers is good. |
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> They can always become _more_ active, which is easier if they retain cvs |
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> access. If they make a single commit every 3-6 months, I'm fine with |
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> that as long as things are maintained properly. |
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> 5. Remember that cvs/bugzilla activity is not the only way of |
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> contributing. It's probably most tanglible and very needed, but let's |
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> not reduce real people and their real world situations, and their effort |
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> to contribute to just dates and numbers. |
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> Paweł |
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Also I must note that I am currently only looking to people with 0 |
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commits AND bugs assigned to them, if they don't have unresolved bugs |
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for a long time I usually tend to leave them. |
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Also, before sending first mail, I also send them a mail to set their |
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devaway message and handle his bugs and if they don't have time to |
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reassign his packages, I do it for them. |