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From: Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:07:40
Message-Id: AANLkTila7izR6FBnwPEnY-44FRH6lNBbZnMTwPP477QX@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo by Sebastian Pipping
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o> wrote:
> On 06/19/10 17:34, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> No, really, flaming #gentoo-infra on the gentoo-dev mailing list is >> silly, useless *and* ironic (in this case). > > It's not about the infra team, it's about communication in the > #gentoo-infra channel.  All of "silly, useless *and* ironic" could use > an explaination, at least to me. >
* It is silly because this is an insignificant matter compared to the bigger problems. * It is useless because you're approaching this in a completely wrong way; being vehement doesn't convince anyone. * It is ironic because by flaming the people on that channel in a public manner, you are degrading the tone of this mailing list. In fact, by doing what you are doing, you are alienating people who once supported your cause, and wanted to help. You cannot cause change without widespread support. You cannot convince people of your opinions by insulting them, or repeating your arguments emphatically. I advise you to take a break to cool off and think for a while about how you are approaching this. To make someone understand your PoV, you must first understand their PoV and *empathize* with it. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team