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On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 09:43:53PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:29:39 +0200 |
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> Christian Faulhammer <fauli@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > Which groups who would like to be able to contribute currently feel |
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> > > that they can't, why do they feel that and why haven't they said so? |
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> > For example people from the other package managers apart from |
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> > Paludis. |
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> Zac's said he's not particularly interested in the deciding upon new |
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> features part, and despite that there was considerable Portage |
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> influence upon all three new EAPIs. The Pkgcore people haven't tried |
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> pushing for anything as far as I know. The option's there for them, but |
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> they haven't expressed any interest. |
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Actually pkgcore folk have pushed for stuff. mtime preservation is a |
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simple example of things I've pushed for- at the time implemented by |
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portage/pkgcore, eliminates the orphan potential for .pyc and other |
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generated files (iow, very useful). My personal opinion on what goes |
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into PMS is that it's typically only stuff that paludis supports |
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already (or is a direction paludis wants to go towards). Could be |
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wrong, but that's my opinion of it via watching/involvement in it from |
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it's public inception. |
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In terms of involvement in PMS, frankly it's not worth it from where |
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I'm sitting due to ciarans behaviour. Simplest explanation possible |
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there is that w/ ciaran being effectively the loudest voice PMS wise, |
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combined w/ behaviour involving sitting on bugs in competing managers |
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(including instances where that manager isn't compliant w/ PMS) and |
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popping them out at random times on the ML to rip on the manager, |
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it's not worth dealing with it. |
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It's not a matter of having thicker skin- it's literally a question of |
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worth. Is it worth trying to have a voice if it means exposing |
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yourself to BS behaviour? Via that line of thought y'all should be |
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able to understand my personal choice involvement wise. |
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It's basically a happier existance to just implement the spec, and |
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keep the head down ;) |
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My two cents on it, for what it's worth. |
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~brian |