Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

[Donnie Berkholz]

On 21:22 Sun 08 Mar     , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar     , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> > Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The syntax
> > you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to the one using
> > vars. And looking at the ebuilds - taking G2CONF as an example - it
> > seems that people don't have a problem with putting their config
> > options into vars. And furthermore with your syntax you still have to
> > write out "econf $(use_with ...)" explicitly while adding it the
> > conf-vars to a var (as proposed) makes the complete src_configure
> > function obsolete, allows the usage of the default
> > src_configure/src_compile/src_install (see
> > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_17e6ae8082aeb762fd01ba7307457789.xml
> > for example) and is therefore even shorter to write.
>
> I think the idea of ebuilds as scripts showing directly how to build
> software is a core part of the Gentoo build-system philosophy. This
> proposal pushes ebuilds toward a formatted file that is not a script.
> Instead, it is more like an Ant XML file that more abstractly describes
> a build. I think this is the wrong direction for ebuilds because they
> should directly resemble how software is built by hand.
>
> One of the key reasons people use Gentoo is that ebuilds are so easy to
> "get" for anyone who has ever built software by hand. I will continue to
> vehemently defend anything that I think retains this key advantage of
> Gentoo over other distributions.

To return to the original point of this whole thread, your goal was to 
get EAPI=3 through fairly quickly without tons of controversial points. 
I don't think this component qualifies. Feel free to bring it up again 
for 4.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com