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From: Jochen Maes <gentoo-dev@××××.be>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OT noise (Was: Profile masking and profiles package.mask)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:38:01
Message-Id: 451EFE80.7020800@sejo.be
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] OT noise (Was: Profile masking and profiles package.mask) by Danny van Dyk
1 Danny van Dyk wrote:
2 > Am Samstag, 30. September 2006 19:02 schrieb Jakub Moc:
3 >
4 >> Mike Frysinger wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> seriously jakub, stop responding ... you have nothing technical to
7 >>> offer to the issue at hand
8 >>>
9 >>> let the people who work on portage handle it
10 >>> -mike
11 >>>
12 >> Eh, the whole technical point here is that paludis behaviour differs
13 >> from portage (and differs from pkgcore, FWIW).
14 >>
15 > This has little to do with why this change to the devmanual has been
16 > done.
17 >
18 >
19 >> So, hiding the inconsistency via altering the profiles doesn't change
20 >> anything. Plus, the point of the bug's flame fest was that bugzilla
21 >> is not a proper place to request such behaviour changes, and
22 >> definitely not a reason for QA to mess with the profiles. Sticking
23 >> the stuff in package.mask won't make the inconsistent behaviour
24 >> vanish in any way, it will just hide it.
25 >>
26 > It is not a behaviour change imho. The "packages" file changed
27 > its meaning subtly after introducing cascading profiles.
28 > As ciaranm already pointed out: It is not meant to mask "<"-like
29 > versions anymore. It's meant to
30 > - Describe the system package set
31 > - Define which versions are _at least_ needed for a profile.
32 >
33 >
34 >> So, I'd kinda appreciate if concerned folks (including portage and
35 >> relevant affected arches) were involved in this discussion, instead
36 >> of sneaking the changes in under QA disguise.
37 >>
38 > Release engineering arch coordinators, which happen to be the people who
39 > maintain the profiles below default-linux/ for their relevant arches,
40 > have been CCed and Chris already stated that he forgot/didn't realize
41 > to fix this problem for no-nptl/2.4's package.mask.
42 >
43 > Jakub: Please reevaluate the behaviour you showed on both the bug and
44 > this mailing list. I for one don't consider it anywhere near
45 > appropriate. This shall be no offense, just a comment in regard that
46 > you can do better.
47 >
48 mike, danny,
49 thanks for trying, but past reference showed that he likes to talk like
50 a chicken who's head has been chopped of.
51 This whole discussion made most of the people forget what it was about...
52 good on ya jakub...
53 > Danny
54 >
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