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On 04/15/2015 03:02 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: |
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> Yanestra wrote: |
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>> Many secrets, |
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> Something is only a secret if there is intent to keep it secret. |
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> I agree that the various Gentoo structures and the overhead is not |
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> well-documented in a very accessible manner. There are good and bad |
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> mostly historical but partly also legal reasons for the overhead, but |
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> I strongly disagree that there would be any intent to keep any part |
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> of the structures and overhead secret. |
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Some of the technology used in gentoo is in fact secret. Overall, the |
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tree or the documentation about PMS, portage and how to write ebuilds is |
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not secret. |
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Whether this collides with our social contract... well, decide for yourself. |
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>> inaugurations, |
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> That's the becoming-a-developer-threshold, which I find too high to |
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> be worth my time, but in my overlay, which is easily installable using |
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> the layman tool, I can still contribute to the Gentoo ecosystem. |
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High-quality overlays are the easiest way to contribute. I don't think |
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users should really have to care when or how an ebuild reaches the CVS |
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gentoo tree. Most projects already use overlays (e.g. science, perl, |
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haskell...). Start there and you'll save a lot of headache too. |
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>> and obviously magic. |
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> No magic, just advanced technology. But you'll have to learn how it |
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> works to decide whether it is for you, or if something simpler will |
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> suffice for your needs. |
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Not only advanced, but sometimes also broken technology, because the |
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system wasn't really designed from the start. It has grown with time. |
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Portage is unrecoverable, but we already have efforts of useful |
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alternatives. |
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To reply to the topic: If the only reason you want to become a gentoo |
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developer is "contributing ebuilds", then you should reconsider that, |
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because there are easier ways to do that. |
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But if you are interested in politics, PMS, EAPI and other |
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organizational stuff on top of contributing ebuilds, it might make sense. |