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From: Steven Elling <ellings@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla behaviour in Gentoo Linux (long email)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:06:47
Message-Id: 200311041706.38185.ellings@kcnet.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla behaviour in Gentoo Linux (long email) by Brad House
1 On Sunday 02 November 2003 20:01, Brad House wrote:
2 > Commenting below:
3 > >> --------------------------------
4 > >> Scenario 1: slocate and updatedb
5 > >> --------------------------------
6 > >>
7 > >> 1) Remove slocate from base system
8 > >> 2) Remove makewhatis from daily cron duties
9 > >> 3) Remove updatedb from daily cron duties
10 > >>
11 > >> I'm probably not alone in the fact that I never use slocate and given
12 > >> fixed location of package files and other files in gentoo finding
13 > >> things is easier than other distros especially given qpkg -l and
14 > >> etcat -f.
15 >
16 > I do not agree with removing this stuff. I think it should be default.
17 > This is basic stuff that I've seen every other distro do as well, and
18 > I would consider this to be standardized. Though maybe what I would
19 > recommend doing is adding documentation in the install guide that
20 > will allow you to prevent this from being added to the cron, or
21 > removing from the cron. For those people who obviously don't know
22 > how to remove a cron job without complaining.
23
24 I think the Gentoo team should consider giving the user a way of configuring
25 packages to not install certain cron jobs upon install. For instance, I
26 have a Tecra 8000 laptop that I use every once in a while. After the
27 laptop completes booting, I cannot use it for 30 minutes to a hour because
28 the makewhatis and updatedb (or slocate) cron jobs kick off after booting
29 and drag the system to a crawl.
30
31 And yes, I know I can just remove the cron jobs but by the time I'm done
32 with the laptop I forget to remove them. Also, the cron jobs will get
33 installed again when their packages are upgraded.
34
35 Better yet. Why not do some magic in portage to run makewhatis and updatedb
36 automagically after a world or system update -- maybe as a FEATURES setting
37 -- and remove the cron jobs altogether. After all, 90% - 99% of the time
38 files and man pages are only added to Gentoo systems when emerging packages
39 (Hmm. deja-Vu).
40
41 I think it is pointless to run programs to update databases that don't need
42 it, which is for the most part the current configuration. Note, Gentoo
43 isn't the only distro using package management tools that does this.
44
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla behaviour in Gentoo Linux (long email) William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla behaviour in Gentoo Linux (long email) Terje Kvernes <terjekv@××××××××.no>