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First off this is a Gentoo development list. I am talking about a problem and |
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solution 100% Gentoo specific. Other OS, even Linux distros really are not |
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relevant really to the discussion. Completely off topic to the thread. |
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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:18:02 AM EST Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> I routinely and often do all the above at work, moving files between |
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> FreeBSD, Ubuntu, Centos, Solaris and whatever container technology |
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> du-jour the devs decided was teh coolz awes0me today. And powershell on |
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> Unix plus posix/cygwin/bash on Windows. |
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You are describing a completely different scenario and problem. I am seeking |
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to address something Gentoo specific. |
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I am also coming from the perspective of running fleets of Gentoo systems. |
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Where some are brought online and offline at various intervals. You have systems |
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automatically syncing things between them via rsync, dsync, and other. Trying |
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to toss in chown/chgrp into the mix is not feasible nor necessary. |
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> Describe these cases please. I've got 15 years behind me at this and |
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> probably seen it all, but I'm just not seeing the problem you perceive |
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16 almost 17 here, but lets not get into pissing contests, there is little |
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benefit or point. |
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> Let's look at real life. |
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> I have exim mail servers on FreeBSD, Ubuntu and Centos. Now that's a |
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> typical real-life scenario, and they are different deliberately. |
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I am running ALL Gentoo, and Dovecot with dsync replication between systems. |
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> Shuttling the mail spool from one machine to another is a fairly lengthy |
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> scp/rsync operation followed by a very fast chmod & chown and daemon |
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> start. The saving is maybe 2 seconds in something that takes many minutes. |
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Not really, I can move qmail queues rather easily... |
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> How about my name servers? They are also a mix and the hosted domains |
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> are in cvs. The bind user does not have a shell and root doesn't get to |
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> cvs update. |
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Once again ALL Gentoo and BIND |
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> I'm starting to think that you need more experience with real-world |
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> deployments with things other than Gentoo in them. |
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While I run a ALL Gentoo environment I have worked with others. My experience |
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and background is not relevant, nor is yours and such is off topic. Anything |
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other than Gentoo does not really matter on this list. |
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> Your position only |
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> affects Gentoo and does nothing to assist with the same circumstance on |
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> everything that is not Gentoo - the common case. |
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I am discussing concerns related to UID/GID management on Gentoo systems on a |
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Gentoo development list... |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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