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From: R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 06:35:39
Message-Id: CAAD4mYgco15qwKYqgirBDf_f1P6nYC2Mtx3N11gHNgo+RHBuJQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists by kuzetsa
1 I apologize for replying to only this message, but #1 stood out and I
2 am still catching up.
3
4 On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:57 PM, kuzetsa <kuzetsa@×××××.com> wrote:
5 > On 12/04/2017 01:51 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
6 >> On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 13:15:32 +0000
7 >> "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
8 >>
9 >>> On 04/12/17 00:37, Matt Turner wrote:
10 >>>> A user requested I forward this information to the mailing list:
11 >>>>
12 >>>> http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/16-057_d45c0b4f-fa19-49de-8f1b-4b12fe054fea.pdf
13 >>>> https://goo.gl/42A8v7 (short URL of the same)
14 >>>>
15 >>>> ... and was itself cited a dozen or times:
16 >>>>
17 >>>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=5443947091657980238
18 >>>> https://goo.gl/obvdzh (short URL of the same)
19 >> Anyone paying any attention to current events? Quite many business and
20 >> governments have gone out of their way to protect and hide the actions
21 >> of abusers. In most causes because they were money makers. I think that
22 >> may contradict the article entirely.
23 >>
24 > 1) harvard business school research publication, not an "article"
25
26 I have read doctoral theses from Harvard, Yale, and others that were
27 complete trash (they were all copies of an original presentation of a
28 paper about finger trees; one included code which didn't compile).
29 Those involved with academia on Freenode have repeatedly warned me not
30 to trust people based on the institution they work for, nor even to
31 trust PhD holders about their field of study. This advice has served
32 me well.
33
34 Unfortunately, being politely asked to explain oneself seems to be
35 grating to a great many people.
36
37 > 2) if things don't change, I'll be one of the people to quit.
38 > 3) gentoo already has documented instances of people leaving.
39 >
40
41 Yes, and from the other end, I see lots of people who hate red tape
42 and a fear of confrontation that gets in the way of technical
43 discussion. As far as I can tell, most of the people who feel slighted
44 feel that way because they choose to interpret someone asking about
45 the validity of their actions as a personal insult.
46
47 Respectfully,
48 R0b0t1