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On Monday 26 October 2009 21:06:04 Rémi Cardona wrote: |
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> Le 24/10/2009 15:42, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit : |
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> > If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this |
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> > change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list. |
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> IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server subprofiles to begin with. |
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> I've always considered Gentoo to be an "opt-in" distro where after a |
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> successful install, you end up with a bash prompt and a _means_ of |
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> installing new packages. |
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> Finding out what USE flags mean and do is part of the Gentoo experience. |
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> If we were doing spin-off distros like Ubuntu and Fedora do, then |
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> subprofiles would be fine, but we're not. |
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So hmm, let me make few hypothetical statements. You see package foo-libs/baz |
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has USE="pic" that is not set by default in profile. It's well documented in |
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metadata.xml which says "disable optimized assembly code that is not PIC |
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friendly". So as an ordinary user you set it in your make.conf because it may |
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be helpful. Then you want to install another package with USE="pic" but you |
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note this useflag for this package means "Force shared libraries to be built as |
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PIC (this is slower)". Of course you don't want your programs run slower, do |
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you? So you disable useflag in make.conf or package.use. This situation may |
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lead user to reinstall half of his system, because some packages with USE="- |
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pic" force foo-libs/baz[-pic] and foo-libs/bar[-pic] too. You end up with |
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nothing after some time spent on reading metadata.xml, recompilling foo, bar, |
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baz... just because you were forced to have a choice. |
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IMO profiles are very good solution for every user. Especially for those that |
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don't know what every use flag means and they (profiles) should have at least |
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base useflags set. And if base, why not most of useful? They are only option. |
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User can alwasy disable it (eg. -kde if he wants gnome, -gnome if he wants kde |
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or - both if he uses openbox). |
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My $0,02. |
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Cheers |
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Dawid Wêgliñski |
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