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From: Omkhar Arasaratnam <omkhar@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:02:38
Message-Id: 42B88DC5.5060305@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools by Thierry Carrez
1 Thierry Carrez wrote:
2
3 >Hi folks,
4 >
5 >I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop
6 >deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of).
7 >
8 >As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but
9 >quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help.
10 >
11 >There is no obvious way to freeze a Portage tree (or to design a
12 >specific profile) for testing on a golden workstation,
13 >
14 Why not? Just don't update the portage tree
15
16 > to build a set of
17 >update packages (ServicePack) and push it to the workstations, or to
18 >have centralized accountability of what's installed where.
19 >
20 set make.conf to point to a static tree stored somewhere which you
21 update as time permits. You could even create an /etc/init.d script that
22 would check for updates (emerge --sync) against your QA'ed frozen tree
23 at each boot.
24
25 >There is no
26 >easy way to avoid having to keep a synchronized copy of the portage tree
27 >on all systems, even when using yourown-binaries.
28 >
29 >
30 see above
31
32 >With automatic deployments, would we run into difficult-to-solve
33 >etc-update problems ? Should/could the ServicePack system take care of
34 >that ?
35 >
36 >
37 etc-update would continue to be a problem
38
39 >Even in a simpler setup (preprod > production) we don't have the tools
40 >to push a software configuration change from a test machine to a
41 >production one.
42 >
43 >What tools are missing ? Is it our job to provide them ? Can it
44 >reasonably be done ? Am I just wrong to want to use Gentoo in that
45 >direction ?
46 >
47 >Next week: Gentoo-as-a-metadistribution tools :)
48 >
49 >
50 >
51 I think most of the assumptions that you're making involve giving your
52 user population root access.
53 Don't
54 Lock down your make.conf and only roll up update when you deem is
55 neccassary using your internal tree. etc-update may still be an issue....
56
57 --
58
59 Omkhar Arasaratnam - Gentoo PPC64 Developer
60 omkhar@g.o - http://dev.gentoo.org/~omkhar
61 Gentoo Linux / PPC64 Linux: http://ppc64.gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools Thierry Carrez <koon@g.o>