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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] sys-devel/autoconf: Convert from eblits into an eclass, #586424
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 16:53:48
Message-Id: 1490288005.1534.1.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] sys-devel/autoconf: Convert from eblits into an eclass, #586424 by Alexis Ballier
1 On czw, 2017-03-23 at 10:51 +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote:
2 > On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:41:39 +0100
3 > "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > Am Dienstag, 21. März 2017, 11:24:39 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel:
6 > > >
7 > > > So what's so special about your packages that you *need* a hack as
8 > > > ugly as eblits?
9 > > >
10 > >
11 > > No response. Seems like there are no real arguments for eblits.
12 > >
13 >
14 > I guess the argument is not for or against eblit but rather about "when
15 > you want to change something you don't maintain, you have to justify it
16 > properly"
17
18 Do you think really think it's fine for maintainer to:
19
20 1. go against best practices, principle of least surprise and basically
21 make it harder for anyone else to touch the ebuild (-> aim for bus
22 factor of 1 and/or making himself indispensable)?
23
24 2. enforce package managers to exhibit non-PMS behavior by making core
25 system packages rely on it? Not to mention minor incompatibilities
26 causing silent breakage.
27
28 Do you really believe *we* ought to be explaining ourselves? All those
29 reasons have been provided. If Mike does not accept them, we can't do
30 anything about it. You can claim we ought to explain till the maintainer
31 is convinced but I think we both know that nobody's going to convince
32 anyone, and the only result would be stalling the change for even more
33 than the 9 months so far.
34
35 --
36 Best regards,
37 Michał Górny

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