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On 2010.06.16 16:36, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> On 06/16/2010 08:43 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: |
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> > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:33:27 +0200 |
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> > Sebastian Pipping<sping@g.o> wrote: |
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> >> Tone is currently not a strength of Gentoo. |
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> >> As I have heard there are people not joining Gentoo because the |
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> >> atmosphere in Gentoo is lacking respect and empathy. |
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> > That's a conclusion first, then a premise? |
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> >> I have searched a few places for rules on tone, looking at the |
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> Gentoo |
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> >> Social Contract [1], the Code of Conduct [2] and the Philosophy of |
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> >> Gentoo [3]. In a way the Code of Conduct defines what good and |
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> bad |
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> >> behavior is. The term "Acceptable behaviour" may make sense as a |
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> >> counterpart to "Unacceptable behaviour" but feels like "what you |
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> can |
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> >> get away with" to me anyhow. |
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> >> - How come tone is so rough when we actually meant to be |
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> >> a friendly community? Has it always been that way? |
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> > What are you referring to? forums.g.o? bugs.g.o? #gentoo? Who, |
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> where, |
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> > when, what channel, thread? |
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Nikos, |
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As a native English speaker (from England) I view Jers reply as terse |
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and to the point, completely lacking in tone. |
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As Alec has already pointed out, it asks questions that need to be |
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asked to advance the discussion. |
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To add my opinion to the reasons for the tone in gentoo communication |
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channels (all of them) ... |
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1. Many posters are using a language that they are less than fluent in. |
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2. There are so many ways to say the same thing in English, its easy to |
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be misunderstood. Take into account point 1 here. |
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3. Most contraversially, many of our developers are young and still |
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have to develop the social skills that only come with experience. Keep |
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in mind points 1 and 2. |
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Read age in place of experience if you like but that's not a |
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politically correct statement, which is I suppose another issue. |
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Regards, |
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Roy Bamford |
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(Neddyseagoon) a member of |
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gentoo-ops |
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forum-mods |
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trustees |