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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:08:07
Message-Id: CAJ0EP413ac7Ojx7ucsH-aE=9Zj8xBzhK45C2_zBpK32KOF6JjA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots by Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Ciaran McCreesh > <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote: >> There's been a move towards using slots for "clever" things that don't >> fit the traditional way of how slots worked. Examples include the new >> gtk2 / gtk3 handling and Ruby gems virtuals. >> >> Aside from being abusive, this screws things up for Paludis users. >> Paludis tends to bring in newer versions when possible (so that users >> aren't stuck with an old GCC forever), and allows the user to select >> when new slots are brought in. When suddenly a few packages are using >> slots and versions to "mean" something other than what they used to, >> this makes the feature unusable. >> >> Thus, as a quick workaround, I'd like to suggest adding a PROPERTIES >> value called "funky-slots", which should be set on every version of any >> package that uses slots in an unconventional manner. This probably >> doesn't need EAPI control, since package manglers are free to ignore >> PROPERTIES tokens. It won't solve the abuse, but it will allow the >> impact upon users to be lessened. >> >> -- >> Ciaran McCreesh > > I don't quite understand why this would be necessary. > > Would "funky-slots" just be used in situations where ebuilds with the > same PV but different PVR have different slots? > > Taking the gtk2/gtk3 example, I think the -r200/-r300 thing is only > used in libraries; applications use slot deps to select which one they > need. Paludis should not remove the -r200 version if it is still > referenced in the depgraph, correct?
Or maybe you are saying that Paludis will not automatically install a new slot for a package that is already installed, even when referenced by a slot dep?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>