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On Wednesday 12 October 2011 17:42:47 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: |
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> Mike Frysinger schrieb: |
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> > otherwise, Rich summed up things nicely in his later post. |
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> If you mean that common sense thing: if there is disagreement about it, |
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> then it is obviously not common. |
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you're mixing "common" with "absolute". so far, you're the only one who seems |
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to think that this behavior is generally acceptable. |
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> >> The second time the package was removed was even without mask or |
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> >> announcement. |
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> > well, it shouldn't have been re-added in the first place |
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> Why not? Nothing in the Gentoo documentation forbids adding an ebuild |
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> which downgrades linux-headers or any other package. |
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there is plenty of stupid stuff the documentation doesn't forbid. again, refer |
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to Rich's post. |
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qutecom is hardly an important package that it gets an exception. i'm sure |
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all 3 Gentoo users were saddened by its demise. |
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> And it is not that I dumped the package to rot there. In my email to |
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> -devel I said that I was going to address the problem that suddenly |
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> became so urgent. |
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it doesn't matter if you intended on getting the issues fixed. the issue |
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shouldn't have been reintroduced in the first place. nothing in this path |
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necessitated adding bad packages back to the tree. |
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> > your package is already broken, |
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> > and removing the linux-headers would break that depgraph. |
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> The removed qutecom ebuild was not broken at any time. |
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by splitting my reply, you changed the meaning. having qutecom in the tree |
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with a depend on versions that i'm now removing breaks the depgraph. |
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> runs fine with the packages in portage. It may trigger a linux-headers |
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> downgrade, but if that really causes breakage in other packages (and I |
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> am not convinced, as you gave only vague arguments, and a Google search |
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> didn't turn up anything) |
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i provided a hypothetical that is not unreasonable. if google could look up |
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hypotheticals, then it's probably self-aware. |
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> then it could be reason for masking. But not reason for removal. |
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we don't generally keep masked things in the tree. it's broken, it gets |
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masked, then it gets removed. this isn't complicated. |
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> Only after all <linux-headers-2.6.38 versions are removed, then it is |
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> indeed uninstallable and needs to be fixed or treecleaned. |
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the existence of other versions is irrelevant. your pkg is broken and needs |
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to be fixed now regardless of what happens to old linux-headers versions. |
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-mike |