Re: [gentoo-dev] Gstreamer + Use Flags

[Fabian Zeindl]

Since nobody except Diego replied on my mail a week ago: 
Is there another way besides filing bugs and mailing the list to make a
proposal which gets investigated? I think many users are concerned about that
gstreamer "oddness", and I didn't find one good reason while reading through
bugzilla of not doing this the way I proposed.

greetings
fabian zeindl

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:38:47 +0200, Fabian Zeindl wrote
> Hi
>
> Some time ago I opened a bug concerning Gstreamer's useflags, which are
> handled completely unlogical at the moment. *every* package
> depending on the gstreamer multimediaframework brings it's own use
> flags for gstreamer-plugins, instead of putting the use flags
> centrally in the gstreamer package itself.
>
> I know this has been discussed before on bugzilla and the lists, and
> I read through all discussions I found. I certainly don't want to
> waste any developer's time with this, but the current handling of
> this is unlogical and not "the gentoo way". I think that many users
> share my opinion here although some devs (foser e.g.) don't agree
> with this.
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100872 and
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84663 decribe the problem.
>
> So my proposal is putting UseFlags for additional GstreamerPlugins
> in the Gstreamerpackage and remove it in the packages depending on
> Gstreamer (totem for example).
>
> Benefits of this:
>  * you have ONE place where you can decide what gstreamer plugins to
> install * you don't have 'wasted useflags'. It's not logical if I
> compile amarok without mad and still can use mad, cause another
> application already used this useflag... * you don't have to
> reemerge EVERY single application that has gstreamer useflags, when
> you want to install ONE additional gstreamerplugin, that's
> completely UNNECESSARY * people don't get confused when using xine
> and useflags doesn't have an impact. (mp3 doesn't work -> recompile
> amarok with xine and mad -> mp3 still doesn't work cause mad useflag
> doesn't influence xine)
>
> CONS:
>  * you have to understand that you use gstreamer: when you want to have
> additional capabilities simple recompiling of amarok (p.e.) doesn't
> work, you have to recompile gstreamer or emerge -uDN world
>
> For me the PROS outweigh the CONS. What do you say?
>
> greetings and hoping that I don't annoy anyone with this mail
>
> fabian
>
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