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From: Daniel Campbell <zlg@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:30:19
Message-Id: 56B88A49.4060006@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider by Patrick Lauer
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4 On 02/08/2016 01:08 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
5 > Ohey,
6 >
7 > I've opened a bug at:
8 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573922
9 >
10 > The idea here is to change the order of the providers of
11 > virtual/udev. For existing installs this has zero impact. For
12 > stage3 this would mean that eudev is pulled in instead of udev.
13 >
14 > The rationale behind this is:
15 >
16 > * eudev is an in-house fork, and there's more than a dozen distros
17 > already using it by default that are not us. Which is a little bit
18 > weird ...
19 >
20 > * Both udev and eudev have pretty much feature parity, so there
21 > won't be any user-visible changes
22 >
23 > * udev upstream strongly discourages standalone udev (without
24 > systemd) since at least 2012
25 >
26 > (see for example:
27 > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-June/005516.
28 html
29 >
30 >
31 https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/618
32 > )
33 >
34 > So it'd be (1) following upstreams recommendations and (2)
35 > dogfooding our own tools. I don't see any downsides to this :)
36 >
37
38 No complaints here. I've used eudev ever since I started using Gentoo
39 back in 2012, to escape systemd. I'm completely okay with us
40 defaulting to eudev. In fact, I wonder why it hasn't already happened.
41 Upstream is actively against Gentoo, after all [1].
42
43 Out of curiosity, which distros are shipping with eudev by default?
44
45 [1]:
46 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.htm
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>