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From: Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: Desktop
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:15:27
Message-Id: 1470910512.5563.7.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: Desktop by Jason Zaman
1 Ühel kenal päeval, T, 09.08.2016 kell 12:02, kirjutas Jason Zaman:
2 > On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 04:37:23PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
3 > > El dom, 07-08-2016 a las 09:07 -0400, NP-Hardass escribió:
4 > > >  [...]
5 > > > Well, that's easily remedied with an alias for the project that
6 > > > contains
7 > > > all the subprojects, no?
8 > > >
9 > >
10 > > But I don't know if the projects will like to behave in that way...
11 > > because freedesktop-bugs was behaving exactly in that way and,
12 > > during
13 > > the transition, it was agreed to stop using that and simply CC the
14 > > right projects when needed :/
15 > >
16 > > From my point of view we should simply kill that "Desktop" project
17 > > as
18 > > it serves no purpose and CC the relevant projects when needed, as I
19 > > don't recall many cases of the old freedesktop-bugs behaving in the
20 > > way
21 > > you are suggesting (involving *all* desktop related projects in the
22 > > bug
23 > > reports). On the other hand it was ending up with most people under
24 > > the
25 > > subprojects simply ignoring the bug reports assigned to
26 > > freedesktop-
27 > > bugs
28 >
29 > Removing it is fine. I'm in the freedesktop and Xfce projects and I
30 > had
31 > no idea this Desktop project even existed.
32 > Pretty sure everyone would just ignore anything from/to it anyway.
33 > Problems with eg KDE and Xfce are mostly not really related. And the
34 > few
35 > things that are related are more core components that are under
36 > freedesktop (polkit/consolekit etc). In which case, that component is
37 > fixed without needing to bother every single other project or we just
38 > CC
39 > them all if need be.
40
41
42 It should be kept for the purposes of coordination between different
43 specific desktop projects and the grouping of them it provides as
44 subprojects.
45 However that doesn't mean it should have any packages in the tree that
46 the desktop projects maintains itself personally, instead of one of its
47 subprojects.
48
49 One of my gentoo plans, when I have time, has been in reviving such
50 desktop-wide coordinations, possibly under the desktop project banner.
51 E.g my started USE=gui and toolkit threads when I had time.
52
53 Frankly, it would be weird to not have a project that broadly manages
54 all the desktop stuff.
55 We should manage this all better under a broad desktop project that
56 manages documentation, some policies, etc, but doesn't necessarily have
57 any packages that it maintains in tree.
58
59 If we need a new lead election per GLEP 39, I'm sure we have some
60 volunteers from the subprojects to throw their name in, that are
61 interested in having a good desktop-wide organization going on. Myself
62 included.
63
64
65 Mart

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: Desktop Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>