Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:25:02
Message-Id: 4AE32A53.2080107@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default by "Petteri Räty"
1 Petteri Räty schrieb:
2 > Thomas Sachau wrote:
3 >> In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either over profiles or via IUSE
4 >> +flag). Whats the reason for forcing a big load of default enabled USE flags on every user including
5 >> more dependencies, more compile time, more wasted disk space and more possible vulnerabilities
6 >> except some users, who complain about a missing feature and are not able to think and enable a USE
7 >> flag for that feature?
8 >>
9 >
10 > One possible reason is that our packages should follow upstream policy
11 > and maybe upstreams usually like to keep things enabled rather than
12 > disabled.
13 >
14 > Regards,
15 > Petteri
16 >
17 >
18
19 With that argument you could request to enable all useflags by default. Its ok in my eyes, if you
20 follow upstream the way tarballs are created (e.g. qt move to splitted qt packages or the other way
21 round). Something else would make maintainence part much harder. But i disagree on the part for
22 "follow upstream policy for default enabled USE flags".
23 Gentoo is about choice and i would like to have the choice to disable most USE flags by default and
24 with an easy way, e.g. by choising a profile with less default enabled USE flags. Forcing every user
25 to disable many or almost all flags independent of his profile would make Gentoo less userfriendly
26 in general without a good reason. If upstream does not want to support a disabled USE flag, they
27 should not offer the choice to disable it in the first place.
28
29 --
30 Thomas Sachau
31
32 Gentoo Linux Developer

Attachments

File name MIME type
signature.asc application/pgp-signature

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>