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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: lists@×××××××××××.net
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:51:51
Message-Id: 20120617175104.055e62e8@pomiocik.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo by Florian Philipp
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:20:38 +0200
Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net> wrote:

> Am 16.06.2012 19:51, schrieb Michał Górny: > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:54:12 +0200 > > Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net> wrote: > > > >> Am 15.06.2012 06:50, schrieb Duncan: > >>> Greg KH posted on Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:28:10 -0700 as excerpted: > >>> > >>>> So, anyone been thinking about this? I have, and it's not > >>>> pretty. > >>>> > >>>> Should I worry about this and how it affects Gentoo, or not worry > >>>> about Gentoo right now and just focus on the other issues? > >>>> > >>>> Minor details like, "do we have a 'company' that can pay > >>>> Microsoft to sign our bootloader?" is one aspect from the > >>>> non-technical side that I've been wondering about. > >>> > >>> I've been following developments and wondering a bit about this > >>> myself. > >>> > >>> I had concluded that at least for x86/amd64, where MS is mandating > >>> a user controlled disable-signed-checking option, gentoo shouldn't > >>> have a problem. Other than updating the handbook to accommodate > >>> UEFI, presumably along with the grub2 stabilization, I believe > >>> we're fine as if a user can't figure out how to disable that > >>> option on their (x86/amd64) platform, they're hardly likely to be > >>> a good match for gentoo in any case. > >>> > >> > >> As a user, I'd still like to have the chance of using Secure Boot > >> with Gentoo since it _really_ increases security. Even if it means > >> I can no longer build my own kernel. > > > > It doesn't. It's just a very long wooden fence; you just didn't find > > the hole yet. > > > > Oh come on! That's FUD and you know it. If not, did you even look at > the specs and working principle?
Could you answer the following question: 1. How does it increase security? 2. What happens if, say, your bootloader is compromised? 3. What happens if the machine signing the blobs is compromised? -- Best regards, Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo Greg KH <gregkh@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo Matthew Finkel <matthew.finkel@×××××.com>