1 |
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o> wrote: |
2 |
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: |
3 |
> |
4 |
>> I didn't really get any response to this one way or another. At the |
5 |
>> last council meeting a majority of the votes were in favor of |
6 |
>> delaying taking action, so this is back on the agenda. |
7 |
> |
8 |
>> I have yet to see either of the following on this list: |
9 |
>> 1. Specific examples of bugs where a minor arch is making a |
10 |
>> maintainer's life difficult. Please post if you have them. |
11 |
>> 2. Members of these arch teams posting here committing to either |
12 |
>> stabilize new versions or unkeyword old versions in a timely manner. |
13 |
> |
14 |
>> The responses to either of these (or lack thereof) are likely to |
15 |
>> influence my vote at the meeting. Note, I'm not interested in mere |
16 |
>> comments that people want an arch to stay stable supported (which |
17 |
>> I've seen plenty of). I'm interested in COMMITMENT to be |
18 |
>> stable-supportable (which I've seen none of). The lack of the |
19 |
>> latter is what is going to cause a package to be dropped - I'd love |
20 |
>> to see every arch that exists stable-supported on Gentoo, along with |
21 |
>> world peace. This is a volunteer distro - in general you get the |
22 |
>> features you pitch in to help deliver, and if you're depending on a |
23 |
>> minor arch you REALLY need to step up as there aren't many of you |
24 |
>> out there. That said, I would like specific examples of cases where |
25 |
>> dropping a minor arch would have helped - the onus is on those |
26 |
>> wanting the status quo changed to present a case. |
27 |
> |
28 |
> [Crossposting to -dev. Replies should go to -project if possible.] |
29 |
> |
30 |
> Again, no reply. I suspect the outcome of today's vote will be that |
31 |
> stable keywords for the architectures in question (alpha, ia64, m68k, |
32 |
> s390, sh, sparc) should be dropped. |
33 |
> |
34 |
> Arch teams, last chance to speak up. |
35 |
> |
36 |
> Ulrich |
37 |
> |
38 |
|
39 |
I've already spoken up as have others. I'm an alpha maintainer and I'm |
40 |
against this. jmorgan is a sparc maintainer and he's against it. |
41 |
|
42 |
I don't care about the others, and frankly understand the frustration |
43 |
with long stable requests, but leave alpha out of it. |