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From: 320095285153-0001@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger)
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:30:28
Message-Id: 3A702404.789AA202@gottinger.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom by Thomas Flavel
Thomas Flavel wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:18:48PM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote: > > Thomas Flavel wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:01PM -0600, Bryce Porter wrote: > > > > > > > > Tom: > > > > "I'm just thinking along the lines of a minimum binary system where > > > > absolutley needed, and compiling specifically everywhere else? I realise this would > > > > be slow to install on slower systems, but, since we're all power users... ;) > > > > > > > > Seriously though, I do think this would be a nice feature, unless there's > > > > some practicality reason I'm missing." > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > I think this is a great idea. I heard of a GNU/Linux distrobution that > > > > when installed compiled all selected packages from source, making it the > > > > most optimized you could get for your specific machine. I think it was > > > > called Rock Linux or something. > > > > > > Not heard of it, but a quick search on google reveals the predicatable url: > > > http://www.rocklinux.org, #rocklinux on irc.openprojects.net. > > > > > > Looks to be faily mature (at least they're past 1.0 ;), supports ppc and alpha > > > as well as x86. > > > > Please send me you ppc, alpha, i64, mips, sparc machines and I will do the ports. :-) > > I have access to SH3, Arm, possibly Sparc (less possibly ultrasparc :) and ppc, all of > which I would like to have running gentoo :)
Cool, I think the first step is getting spython, portage and gcc-2.95.2 running. With that it should be possible to build that minium-build system I described below for that targets.
> > > > > > > From what I can see it has a binary cd version, with the option > > > to compile from source (the same thing I was talking about, if I understand them > > > correctly). It describes it's package management as closer to FreeBSD than debian. > > > It looks to be quite similar to gentoo to me, although not quite as advanced. > > > > I took a look at the site and think that we need something similar to cfengine > > sometimes. > > That looks like a great idea; I was wondering about something similar for configuring > applications; i.e. some way to save a "theme" for the applications I use (e.g. colours > for lynx matching the colours for man pages etc if you see what I mean)
You mean the user-specific dor-config-files?
> > > > > > I thougth about a minimum build system too, while I had to go back to i486 from i686. > > There is another project linux-from-scratch (www.lfs.org i think) that creates a > > statically linked set > > of packages required for build first and then builds the rest with that bin's. Such a > > set would require > > about 50MB and it is not difficult to make a few modified packages for that. > > This build-system could be placed on a gentoo-source cd together with a snapshot of the > > port-tree. > > Then you whould be able to boot with the source-cd and install a build.tbz2 instead of a > > sys.tbz2. > > Then you can chroot to that system and build everything from sources. > > Additionally this offers the possibility to build gentoo from within another > > linux-distro. > > > > How do you guys think about that? > > Sounds excellent to me :)
I have nearly finished that :-) ~achim
> > > - Tom > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@g.o > http://www.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

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