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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] tmpfiles virtual
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:02:39
Message-Id: b6ab79ff-6727-0e37-5bd7-c71d4811c11f@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] tmpfiles virtual by "Michał Górny"
1 On 17/11/16 01:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:21:41 -0600
3 > William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 01:04:11PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
6 >>> On 16/11/16 12:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
7 >>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:14:02AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
8 >>>>> On 16/11/16 10:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
9 >>>>>> opentmpfiles will be updated to install the service scripts which
10 >>>>>> will be run when OpenRC boots a system. There is nothing for
11 >>>>>> it to do if systemd is used to boot the system.
12 >>>>>>
13 >>>>>> William
14 >>>>>>
15 >>>>>
16 >>>>> But there is something to do if openrc is used to boot the system and
17 >>>>> systemd is the package providing tmpfiles.d processing via the virtual.
18 >>>>
19 >>>> The providers (opentmpfiles and systemd) will not block each other, so
20 >>>> the only way this will happen is if you have openrc and systemd
21 >>>> installed then forcefully remove opentmpfiles. I think you would not
22 >>>> want to do that until you are ready to migrate to booting with systemd.
23 >>>>
24 >>>> William
25 >>>>
26 >>>
27 >>> I think I'm having a hard time getting across the issue here...:
28 >>>
29 >>> 1 - we will have a virtual/tmpfiles that will bring in EITHER systemd,
30 >>> or opentmpfiles.
31 >>>
32 >>> 2 - openrc will NOT depend on opentmpfiles (nor virtual/tmpfiles)
33 >>>
34 >>> 3 - Applications that install stuff into /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/ will
35 >>> need to depend on virtual/tmpfiles in order to make sure that the
36 >>> system has something installed that will process them at boot-time.
37 >>
38 >> Yes, this will be handled by an RDEPEND in the eclass.
39 >
40 > This is a wrong presumption. The eclass needs the virtual only for
41 > pkg_postinst(). While RDEPEND is how we solve this now, it will no
42 > longer be necessary in a future EAPI.
43 >
44
45 This makes sense to me as well -- which means every package that
46 installs tmpfiles.d/ files should properly RDEPEND on the virtual on
47 its own when the functionality arisen from those tmpfiles.d files is
48 non-optional.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] tmpfiles virtual William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] tmpfiles virtual "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>