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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@×××××.com>
To: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o>
Cc: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>, gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 06:01:59
Message-Id: 20110918060120.GA6005@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting by Zac Medico
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:26:57PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 09/17/2011 08:47 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 14:06 Fri 16 Sep , Zac Medico wrote: > >> Bumping the EAPI of the root profiles/eapi file would be a different > >> matter, since it applies to the whole repository. If you want to > >> version bump that repository-level EAPI, then you need to wait until > >> at least 6 months after supporting package managers have been > >> available in stable. > > > > So in your opinion, it would be fine to bump profiles/eapi to EAPI=4 > > now? > > Yes, it's feasible. As a consequence, we may get some complaints from > users who haven't upgraded during the last six months.
Bit more than complaints; any system running a PM older than 6 months or so (regardless of paludis/portage/pkgcore) will have to roll their own profile to merge *anything*. Period. A pkg going to an unsupported eapi precludes the package from being used; bumping the root profile node to 4 (or any node in the users chain) means they /cannot use that profile/. If people are seriously going to pull something this level of heinous, at the very least plan it- it's a sizable enough breakage other things could/should be shoved in (including giving people significant warning). To be absolutely clear, You bump the base to EAPI4, you're actively making every system w/ a 6 month lag basically invalidated. For reference of the actual eapi usage in the tree (pinspect eapi_usage), is the following: eapi: '0' 10629 pkgs found, 36.73% of the repository eapi: '2' 7254 pkgs found, 25.07% of the repository eapi: '3' 5315 pkgs found, 18.37% of the repository eapi: '4' 5013 pkgs found, 17.32% of the repository eapi: '1' 728 pkgs found, 2.52% of the repository
> For users like > these, we could take a snapshot of the tree before the EAPI is bumped, > and archive it so they can use it to update their package manager to a > version that supports the new EAPI.
Target the profiles; no need to snapshot the whole tree unless the plan is to bump 83% of the tree forward to EAPI4 shortly there after (which is mildly rediculous in it's own anyways)... ~harring