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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o, pr@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: LINGUAS USE_EXPAND renamed to L10N
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 18:28:43
Message-Id: 20160607202813.530aeb8f.mgorny@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] News item: LINGUAS USE_EXPAND renamed to L10N by Mart Raudsepp
1 On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 03:22:34 +0300
2 Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > First draft of news item for proceeding with LINGUAS USE_EXPAND rename
5 > to L10N independently of the INSTALL_MASK feature additions.
6 >
7 > I hope English natives will improve the sentence flow and grammar here
8 > :)
9 > Perhaps there's also a better title than with the technical USE_EXPAND
10 > mention.
11 >
12 >
13 > Title: LINGUAS USE_EXPAND renamed to L10N
14 > Author: Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
15 > Content-Type: text/plain
16 > Posted: 2016-06-06
17 > Revision: 1
18 > News-Item-Format: 1.0
19 >
20 > The LINGUAS USE_EXPAND has been renamed to L10N, to avoid a conceptual
21 > clash with the standard gettext LINGUAS behaviour.
22 > L10N controls which extra localization support will be installed.
23 > This is usually used in case of extra downloads of language packs.
24 >
25 > If you have set LINGUAS in your make.conf, you should either copy or
26 > rename it to L10N, depending on if you want to filter the supported
27 > languages at build time or not via the gettext LINGUAS environment
28 > variable behaviour as described below. Note that this filtering does not
29 > affect only installed gettext catalog files (*.mo), but also lines of
30 > translations in an always shipped file (e.g *.desktop).
31 >
32 > LINGUAS maintains the standard gettext behaviour and will now work as
33 > expected with all package managers. It controls which language
34 > translations are built and installed. An unset value means all
35 > available, an empty value means none, and a value can be an unordered
36 > list of gettext language codes, with or without country codes.
37 > Usually only two letter language codes suffice, but can be limited with
38 > country codes with a 'll_CC' formatting, where 'll' is the language code
39 > and 'CC' is the country code, e.g en_GB. Some rare languages also have
40 > three letter language codes.
41 > If you want English with a set LINGUAS, it is suggested to list it with
42 > the desired country code, in case the default is not the usual en_US.
43 > It is also common to list "en" then, in case a package is natively
44 > written in a different language, but does provide an English translation
45 > for whichever country.
46 > A list of LINGUAS language codes is available at
47 > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Language-Codes
48 >
49 > Note that LINGUAS affects build time, and thus filters what ends up
50 > in binary packages. If you are building generic binary packages that
51 > should support all available language, you should not set LINGUAS.
52 >
53 > If you have per-package customizations of LINGUAS USE_EXPAND, you
54 > should also rename those from LINGUAS to L10N. This typically means
55 > renaming linguas_* to l10n_*.
56 >
57 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide has also been updated
58 > to reflect this change.
59
60 So here's how I would word it. I think if we combine a few different
61 texts, we may end up with something good ;-).
62
63 ---
64 The LINGUAS USE flag group has been renamed to L10N, in order to avoid
65 a conceptual clash between the Gentoo use of the name, and a standard
66 environment variable used by multiple gettext-based packages. Therefore,
67 from now on filtering localizations is supported on three independent
68 levels: L10N, LINGUAS and INSTALL_MASK.
69
70 The L10N flags affect built and installed localizations of the packages
71 listing those flags explicitly. They are fully controlled by
72 the package manager, and their values are defined globally. They do not
73 affect the packages not listing them explicitly.
74
75 The LINGUAS variable is now verbosely passed through to the build
76 system. It controls the localizations built and installed by packages
77 that use it, and that do not override it using L10N flags. Note that
78 due to the design, the localization stripping is done implicitly
79 and the package manager can not determine which localizations were
80 actually provided.
81
82 Additionally, the INSTALL_MASK improvements available in Portage 2.3.0
83 make it possible to filter localizations at package merge stage. In this
84 case, the filtering is done on installed directories transparently,
85 and the build process and binary packages are not affected.
86
87 If you were using LINGUAS before, you most likely want to replace it
88 with L10N. If you need to strip localizations more (e.g. for embedded
89 systems), you may also want to set LINGUAS and/or INSTALL_MASK.
90 However, if you intend to provide or use binary package, you will most
91 likely want to leave L10N and LINGUAS unset in order to build most
92 portable binary packages, and use INSTALL_MASK to transparently strip
93 installed localizations on the hosts using them.
94
95 For more information, please see:
96 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide
97 ---
98
99 Of course, we'd need to update the guide to explain all three layers
100 in detail.
101
102 --
103 Best regards,
104 Michał Górny
105 <http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: LINGUAS USE_EXPAND renamed to L10N Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>