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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Roy's retirement (Was: PMS location)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 03:40:14
Message-Id: pan.2007.12.25.03.36.54@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PMS location (Was: Re: EAPI placement) by Roy Marples
1 Roy Marples <roy@×××××××.name> posted
2 1198537244.2806.13.camel@××××××××××××××.name, excerpted below, on Mon, 24
3 Dec 2007 23:00:44 +0000:
4
5 > On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 21:39 +0000, Duncan wrote:
6 >> Apparently, at present, pretty much the only one with access is the one
7 >> who actually did the port, and he's hasn't done much with it since.
8 >
9 > I beg to differ - I've down an awful lot with the code.
10
11 I guess I was a bit ambiguous as I had mentioned your project in passing,
12 but that remark as quoted was intended to apply to the Gentoo PMS repo,
13 not your RC project (which I know has seen progress as I've been
14 following the blog).
15
16 Sorry for the confusion.
17
18 > Granted I'm waiting on Gentoo Infra to host it (the git repo) because
19 > that is what we agreed. However I'm probably going to end up going with
20 > someone else, or hosting myself, because it's now coming up to 2 months
21 > and nothings ready yet.
22
23 ... So the remark, while intended for the Gentoo PMS repo, would seem to
24 apply to the Gentoo repo for your project as well... Not to be hard on
25 infra here, just reality, which must be dealt with.
26
27 > Heck, my retirement bug [1] is still pending and
28 > I currently have full access to all my accounts on various boxes. So
29 > either I'm a very trustable guy that you really don't want to retire
30 > (tough, I have) or some people are slacking.
31
32 >From all the discussion I've seen, you /are/ trusted. The arrangement
33 they are working on for you is the first of its kind (probably one reason
34 it's taking the time it is), and I don't think something they'd have
35 considered for just anyone. (If you note, the PMS repo thing, which they
36 are treating similar, is documentation, not code, certainly not code that
37 has been and will continue to be at the core of very close to every
38 Gentoo box out there.)
39
40 > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199318
41
42 I expect that's showing in the "lack of haste" in closing the retirement
43 bug as well. You are still trusted and your code will continue to be at
44 the center of Gentoo for the foreseeable future, so regardless of dev
45 access or not you could still screw Gentoo over if that was your intent,
46 and given that, well, there are just more pressing matters to attend to.
47
48 That said, while flattered, I'd be bugged about it too if it were me. I
49 know I'm sermonizing the choir here but crackers love stale but still
50 active accounts, and it remains your name on the line, so yeah, there's
51 reason for concern.
52
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55 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
56 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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