| 1 |
Dale posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2016 13:42:37 -0500 as excerpted: |
| 2 |
|
| 3 |
> James Le Cuirot wrote: |
| 4 |
>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:09:38 -0400 waltdnes@××××××××.org wrote: |
| 5 |
>> |
| 6 |
>>>> I never really got the mentality that using an initramfs is a burden. |
| 7 |
>>> One more piece of software that can go wrong. You have to |
| 8 |
>>> maintain+configure it; e.g. sync software and library versions with |
| 9 |
>>> what's on the rest of the system. |
| 10 |
>> Errm, have you ever actually used dracut? |
| 11 |
>> |
| 12 |
>> dracut --kver 4.5 |
| 13 |
>> |
| 14 |
>> Wow, that was hard! It requires zero configuration and that's true even |
| 15 |
>> if you've got LVM on top of LUKS on top of RAID or something equally |
| 16 |
>> complex. If you're already running that kernel version, you don't even |
| 17 |
>> need to specify it. |
| 18 |
>> |
| 19 |
> FYI. I've had those to fail too. As Walt said, just one more thing to |
| 20 |
> fail. |
| 21 |
|
| 22 |
And more to the point, if all you know about dracut is dracut --kver 4.5, |
| 23 |
then you're not going to be able to _fix_ those failures. |
| 24 |
|
| 25 |
Some years ago I tried lvm2 as well as mdraid. I quickly ejected lvm2 |
| 26 |
from my system and future plans (keeping mdraid), because it was simply |
| 27 |
too complex for me as an admin to be confident in my ability to work with |
| 28 |
it without fat-fingering something, under the extreme pressure of a |
| 29 |
disaster recovery situation, possibly without proper access to manpages |
| 30 |
and other documentation due to the disaster recovery I was working thru. |
| 31 |
|
| 32 |
Waltdnes has a point, the same point I learned then. As a responsible |
| 33 |
admin, if the system's too complex to be understood well enough to be |
| 34 |
confident in one's ability to restore in a disaster recovery situation |
| 35 |
with limited or no access to manpages and similar documentation, it's too |
| 36 |
complex. A reasonable system is one you understand well enough to |
| 37 |
confidently manage it in those sorts of situations. Otherwise it's |
| 38 |
simply too complex for your skill level as an admin. |
| 39 |
|
| 40 |
And understanding an initr* well enough to confidently deal with a |
| 41 |
disaster recovery situation, possibly/likely without access to |
| 42 |
documentation (it's a disaster recovery, after all!) is definitely *well* |
| 43 |
beyond "dracut --kver 4.5" level, so he's very right to be worried about |
| 44 |
it. |
| 45 |
|
| 46 |
-- |
| 47 |
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
| 48 |
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
| 49 |
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
Archives